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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:08 am 
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Hey all,

I am 6'3" with long legs and I have recently purchased a 2012 Outback. I have the pedals set to 7 and when I am peddling the right peddle bangs into the kayak near the front foot holds. I am a pretty avid biker so even a setting of 7 is cramped (I am not getting anywhere near full extension). I am sure I have the drive in correctly. I just wanted to know if this is expected behavior - do I need to shorten my stroke a bit or this there some other adjustment I can make.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:08 pm 
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They did for me as well so I ended up with a TI. It had the most room but at a "cost" ;-) . If your seat is in the rearmost position already you might gain some real estate by switching to some minimal footware. I recently bought a pair of Vibram Five Finger Shoes "KSO" model and while I normally run with my Drive on 7 I can chage it to 6 and have the same leg stroke. You might try peddling barefoot for a while to see if there is an opportunity there for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:00 pm 
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We are looking into this here. Seems that was a problem on some boats in the past. Thought we were beyond that. The hulls are hand shaped. Molds distort over time and we changed the pedals at some point... that narrowed the tolerance.

Worst case, you can remove the pedal strap and the small molded part that is outboard on the pedal. That should allow full length strokes.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:41 am 
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I have the same 'problem' with my TI in the backseat: in setting 7 it is possible to hit the rear AKA crossbar if I do a full stroke. I just keep the drive in setting 6 :)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:24 am 
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I took a look on the line yesterday. The pedal strap fitting contacts the hull at the same point as the full stroke. You hit the end of the stroke at virtually the same point. There is no way to avoid a full stroke end point. The fins hit the hull bottom at the same moment as well. It's technique... you need to shorten your stroke.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:15 am 
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mmiller wrote:
I took a look on the line yesterday. The pedal strap fitting contacts the hull at the same point as the full stroke. You hit the end of the stroke at virtually the same point. There is no way to avoid a full stroke end point. The fins hit the hull bottom at the same moment as well. It's technique... you need to shorten your stroke.


First of all thank you for looking into this for me. I appreciate your candid response.

When I test peddled a 2011 outback the peddles hit at a setting of 7. The dealer thought it was probably because the demo was a rental that had been abused all year and perhaps had some play in it. When I purchased my boat last Friday we tested to see if the peddles hit at a setting of 7. They did not, but the hull had a big dent from shipping. Thus, they swapped it out for the one I picked up the next day. We did not re-test this issue since it did not exist in first hull, however when I took the boat out the problem became evident. At the moment I am trying to decide whether to keep the boat or not. I really love it, but I just spent a lot of money for something that is somewhat broken for me. It would seem to make sense that if some of the hulls do work with a setting of 7 that informing dealers to try and cherry pick the hulls for taller customers would seem to be a good practice. Even better would be if you ran this check at the plant and somehow marked the "tall" models.

Once again thanks for your response.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:02 pm 
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Most certainly there is a chance for slight variations from boat to boat. Seeing that the one I saw was very slightly in contact and you have seen ones that do not, there could be a few things causing it. Different colors, cooling, hardware mounting or drives could all be responsible for this. If there is any fore / aft play in the drive, a pad can be added to the front of the spine to hold it up slightly. The Click and Go hardware has a small amount of play. Perhaps budging them aft a little might be possible. The drive pedal bolts might be a tad loose allowing the shafts to splay outward a small amount. That is just a few quick guesses.

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