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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:40 pm 
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I thought transporting my oasis was bad with my ranger. I now have a honda ridgeline. Is the roof rack too close to use or will i need a goal post to help support it?

Thoughts??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:01 am 
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My thoughts are that the supports should be about 50 inches apart for the best load distribution and support. How far apart for the supports?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:37 pm 
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I have a lumber rack on my Ranger, on which I carry my Oasis. I use two 5' lengths of 1" PVC with foam pipe insulation between the kayak and the rack. The lengths of PVC fit into the longitudinal grooves on the bottom of the Oasis and keep it off the ladder rack crossbars. On my rack, the PVC tubes span two crossbars that are about 38" apart. I have transported my Oasis quite a bit this way with no problems. Prior to the Ranger, I used the same method on the roof rack of my Subaru. Those bars were about 42" apart. If you get the center of gravity between your crossbars (at about the front of the rear drive well), you should have no problem on your Ridgeline. Oh, and duct tape the insulation where it rides on the crossbars, or it will get ripped up in no time.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:08 am 
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[quote="sundancer"]I thought transporting my oasis was bad with my ranger. I now have a honda ridgeline. Is the roof rack too close to use or will i need a goal post to help support it?

We tried a roof rack system on our Ridgeline and came close to wiping out my wife, our Oasis, my Ridgeline and our driveway with various scary slips and ka Thuds while trying to get the Oasis on the Ridgeline's roof.

We went to the Malone Sport trailer to store and haul our Oasis. It works, but due to the official anti human offal who work overtime to keep vehicles and in particular ones with trailers away from the water by blocking the road to the launch site with boulders bigger than our Ridgeline. We were being blocked from new and old launching sites. Some of the newer sites have no room for a trailer in their lots.

I put together the following and easy system for my Freedom Hawks, and I have recently learned how to load my Oasis with this system. It is easier and less hazardous to our old 70 year old bodies.

You need to check on your state laws to see how much overhang from the rear of your truck bed or a Ridgeline is allowed with a bed extender. My system is legal in California.

Listed below are the three major and low cost parts. You will need a sturdy bow line to get the yaks up to the front of your truck bed and then secure it to the Keeper Ratcheting Bar which you previously secured in the front part of your truck bed:

Cabela’s Infinte Bed Extender $130 to $140.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Infinte- ... d+extender

I recently bought this newer bed extender and it is easier to set up and take down. It works with my Freedom Hawk Pathfinder and Oasis in and out of my driveways and local roads. With this extender, we no longer drag the yaks on the pavement when going into a driveway or up and down a boat launch.

Below is a youtube link showing the loading and unloading of a PA into a Ridgeline with the Infinite Bed Extender:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrXEaGF3DI

Keeper Ratcheting Cross Bar: $30


http://www.cabelas.com/product/Auto-ATV ... t104658480

Edge Cargo Net Truck Bed Retainer: $40

http://www.edgebyexpedite.com/store/tru ... ainer.html

Malone-Sentry-Bow-&-Stern-Ratchet-Tie-Downs: $30

http://www.austinkayak.com/products/390 ... nd%20stern

I have installed the Keeper Ratcheting Cross Bar semi permanently up front in the truck bed about 2 inches from the outside of the cab and about 18 inches of the truck bed. Before putting the Oasis on the rack and in the bed I attach two of the kayak straps with the pulleys and hooks to the cross bar and then put the remaining hook on each strap on each side of the truck bed in the back one each side of the tailgate.

Then, I attach the Extend a truck hitch to my trailer hitch and back my truck up to our Malone trailer with the Oasis. Then, I turn the Oasis, right side up, and load it stern first on the Extend rack and put a bow line under and up around the ratchet bar in the front of the truck bed to help pull the Oasis up front after attaching the Malone Bow-&-Stern-Ratchet-Tie-Downs hooks to each side of the front or rear of the yak, with the bow to be snubbed in on the port side of the truck bed and secure it. Then, I attach the end hooks of the of Bow-&-Stern-Ratchet-Tie-Downs to the bow of the kayak to help hold down the front half with the hooks placed into the holders in the truck bed. I use the pulleys and the bow line to get the Oasis up and over the cross bar and on the truck bed. If I take my time and share the pulling with each ratchet line and the bow line, this works well even doing it solo. It is faster and easier with two people with one person on each side of the yak using the ratchets.

Next, I take the Net Extender/ retainer which is a net with hooks and adjustable straps and place it over and around the yak's stern. Put each of the two hooks into a built in eye on each side of the pickup bed and the eyes of my trailer hitch and adjust the straps until they are tight. Re snug all straps before you start your trip.

This can be done by a damaged on 76 year old guy in about 5 minutes.

We don't notice nor hear the Oasis being carried this way. I still check the straps after about 5 minutes unless the trip is only a few minutes.

So far the trips have been short and not that high of a temp, and there hasn't been any dents in the bottom of the Oasis.

When I get to the launch site, I back the truck up and reverse the process which takes a few minutes less and launch the yak. I take the net extender retainer off the yak and truck. Then I untie any other straps. I pull the yak off the extender and truck bed bow first and into the water for final rigging.

For our return trip, I pull the yak up bow first, as it is easier for me or with my wife to load it on the bed extender on the tilt of the launch site and shove it into the pickup bed. I use the same procedure to get the yak in and on the truck bed and extender as noted above. Except we/I load the yak bow first at the launch site. It is easier for us to do that.

I have an old carpet runner to put on the launch crete which is kept in the truck bed to prevent launch rash on the yaks during these two procedures.

I lock the Edge Truck Retainer in the Ridgeline's trunk after we get the Mirage units out. They will steal anything out here in Cali land. Last year on a trip to Bodega bay, someone cut off my trailer light inserter which plugged into the outlet by our trailer hitch.

Now instead of hassling with multiple straps and the trailer, we get to and from with minimal hassle. Parking is not a problem when I don't have a trailer attached.

I use the Edge Truck Retainer to haul wood and many other long and flat items.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:35 pm 
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Then, I put the Oasis, right side up, on the Extend rack and put a bow line around the ratchet bar in the front of the truck bed and pull the Oasis up front with the bow snubbed in on the port side of the truck bed and secure it.

GS: out of curiosity, why do you transport your O this way (i.e. right side up instead of upside down)?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:08 am 
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I have a Honda 2013 Pilot and use the same rack as my VW GTI, just a different footpack. I solo most of he time and I use the Thule Hullavator which makes loading a piece of cake although I had to mount two additional grip handles. The standard grip handles are too far apart for me to lift the Oasis by myself.

The Thule Hullavator isn't cheap, but it's a back and time saver for loading AND it has a lifetime warranty. It's a small price to pay for back health and the many minutes I save each time I load and unload. I load right side up and at 85 MPH on the way to the Fla Keys, I hardly could tell it was on the roof. Terrific kayak and rack/lift system!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:12 am 
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kickboyface wrote:
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Then, I put the Oasis, right side up, on the Extend rack and put a bow line around the ratchet bar in the front of the truck bed and pull the Oasis up front with the bow snubbed in on the port side of the truck bed and secure it.

GS: out of curiosity, why do you transport your O this way (i.e. right side up instead of upside down)?


My trip for now are short, 5-15 minute trips with no problems.

I will try putting the Oasis in stern first to see if the rudder is okay. That will make launching the Oasis even easier on ramps. Then I can back the Ridgeline up to the water edge and pull the yak down and into the water, bow first to insert the Mirages. Then we can take off.

Also, we can leave the seats in for the trip with a simple bungy cord to hold the seat back down on the trip. I do this now with my Freedom Hawks as my add on seat is attached by plastic tieon straps. The seat remains fastened down even at 65 mph. The air stream just flows over the back of the seat and helps to hold it down as I drive down the road.

I will be putting a pool noodle on the cross bar of the extend rack for longer trips.

Last but not least, I have the AMA support bar mounted/fastened on the top of the Oasis, and if I put it in the truck bed upside down, that might do damage to the support bar and its holders.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:56 am 
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Strap it sideways across the bed and hang a "wide load" sign.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:12 am 
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Look at that kayak going down the road with a car strapped to it :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:27 am 
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Scottish solution. Nae faffing about. 1200 mile trip. No problems.

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