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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:15 am 
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Hi all,

I've noticed something in my T2 that appears to be a kind of design flaw, but maybe I'm doing something wrong. When raising the sail, at the very top of the mast, the halyard pulls the top six or eight inches of the sail out of the mast track when I raise it completely to the top. As such, it always gets caught at the point where the mast extension (top part of the mast) connects when bringing the sail down. Any suggestions?

Also, just sliding the sail up and down in the track is generally difficult. Is there a way to make it easier?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:49 am 
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Has the T2 been turtled so that the mast head was buried in the mud?
Was the track and the bolt-rope thoroughly cleaned?
Was the sail track damaged?
Was the sail track re-lubed with silicone spray?
and the bolt rope?

Where was the knot on the halyard? Fore or aft of the ring? (Should be aft).

If in doubt, lay the T2 down on the beach (or lawn) and raise the main by hand to see what is going on at the head of the mast.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:15 am 
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camp director g wrote:
the halyard pulls the top six or eight inches of the sail out of the mast track when I raise it completely to the top. As such, it always gets caught at the point where the mast extension (top part of the mast) connects when bringing the sail down. Any suggestions?

Also, just sliding the sail up and down in the track is generally difficult. Is there a way to make it easier?


First... "when I raise it all the way to the top" Does that mean you don't always fully hoist and lock the halyard in the fork? If the sail is not held at the top with the halyard locked in the fork... sailing tensions can pull the sail head out of the track. You can damage the track or sail luff rope if this happens and then have issues hoisting as described.

You could have too much batten tension.

You could be pulling hard on the halyard without properly feeding the sail at the feeder opening. This causes the sail to conform to the designed luff curve shape while hoisting in the (straight) mast... causing friction. less hoist tension the better. Feed the sail up the track at the bottom.

Sail hoisting and locking FAQ: http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=371

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:31 am 
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Sounds like the bolt rope has gotten compressed - (maybe from having tried to rig is reefed?) that doesn't work in the USA - with comptip you must always fully hoist and lock the sail - or it will pull out of the track) Once the luff rope have been damaged it will have a tendency to want to pull out - it will need to be taken to a sail loft and have the bolt rope wrapped to make it correct again. Easy for any sail loft. We could take it to the factory sail loft if you're in Southern California but likely a local sail maker would be best rather than shipping it and losing sailing season.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:28 am 
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This happened to me twice before I figured out how to avoid it. It requires a lot of things being done to avoid the problem, including applying Sailkote dry lubricant to the luff rope, ensuring the luff rope is carefully inserted into the track, aligning the mast into the wind when raising the sail to avoid twisting the sail against the track, pulling with steady force and never jerking it, limiting the pulling force to what's minimally necessary, and gently locking the halyard in the fork. If you don't do all of these things, it's likely to jump the track, especially the final step because the angle of the luff rope is at its maximum off in-line with the track due to the diameter of the grommet on the sail.

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