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 Post subject: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:49 am 
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I already see the obvious. Needs new Ropes, Missing 1 set of Trapeze wires. Sail looks shot. Yes, missing the Jib. Needs some cleaning on the hull. I have not seen this 16 personally. Told there were no soft spots. I did not ask, that was offered.

My Question, Does any of you see something that is jumping out at you.

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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:22 am 
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Looks pretty good to me assuming the soft spot comment is accurate. Looks like it was well cared for and mainitained, and from the looks of it complete

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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:01 am 
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She is missing the Jib and no trailer.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:21 pm 
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Aluminum has been painted. Recently. What were they hiding?

Trampoline is marginal. The hiking straps are long gone, it's not double-grommeted, and it's probably super slick and stiff. It that a gouge I see on one of the photos?

The fairlead is missing from the traveller cleat.

The main traveller is coming apart.

There's a scuff or repaired damage to the deck lip, just aft of the port bow on the outside.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:44 pm 
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Trailer?

If no trailer, and sails in that condition, it is a $400-$600 boat in CA.

Hulls and tramp look fine, but check the bottoms for wear.

I hate paint! I would rather see worn aluminum. But that's me.

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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:34 pm 
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MBounds wrote:
Aluminum has been painted. Recently. What were they hiding?

Trampoline is marginal. The hiking straps are long gone, it's not double-grommeted, and it's probably super slick and stiff. It that a gouge I see on one of the photos?

The fairlead is missing from the traveller cleat.

The main traveller is coming apart.

There's a scuff or repaired damage to the deck lip, just aft of the port bow on the outside.


And to think I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me!!!!!!

If I can swing it, there is another 16 I am looking at that has a newer sails (2005 Model) Harken 6:1 Blocks, plus I think the rigging may be in better shape. Plus it has a trailer. Figure combine the both and hopefully have about $1000.00 tied up before I spend money on stuff that needs replaced (Tramps, Ropes, etc).


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:35 pm 
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wscotterwin wrote:
Trailer?

If no trailer, and sails in that condition, it is a $400-$600 boat in CA.

Hulls and tramp look fine, but check the bottoms for wear.

I hate paint! I would rather see worn aluminum. But that's me.


I asked what they were wanting, They said $800.00. Figure I would offer 4-500 for it. Worn Out Sail, No Jib, No Trailer, etc etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Right on -I painted my tramp and rudder casings etc because I liked the black better than aluminum so I do not think that is an out and out show stopper - for the right price it is a good looking boat

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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:33 pm 
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Add up the cost of replacing:
Sails
Sheets
Blocks
Tramp
Standing rigging (because you'll need it for the new sails)
Trapeze wires
Re-drilling the rudders for the new sails and rigging (there will very likely be more mast rake with the new stuff and the rudders will have too much weather helm)

And that's before you've checked for loose rivets, bolts, and corrosion. Then consider how aggressive you (want to) sail before sinking money into a fixer-upper.

Fresh paint on old boats and cars in so-so condition makes me suspicious.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:59 pm 
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Skipshot wrote:
Add up the cost of replacing:
Sails
Sheets
Blocks
Tramp
Standing rigging (because you'll need it for the new sails)
Trapeze wires
Re-drilling the rudders for the new sails and rigging (there will very likely be more mast rake with the new stuff and the rudders will have too much weather helm)

And that's before you've checked for loose rivets, bolts, and corrosion. Then consider how aggressive you (want to) sail before sinking money into a fixer-upper.

Fresh paint on old boats and cars in so-so condition makes me suspicious.




I have already located another 16 with newer sails and updated blocks. But the hulls are trashed. Take the good and combine.


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:42 pm 
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Bought a hobie 1970s hobie 16 last fall for 450. It has everything you need to sail and a trailer. Not in the best condition takes in a little bit of water after a long day at the lake but that's wha I get for 450. With no trailer and job don't go over 500 for it


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 Post subject: Re: Need Your Opinion
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:20 am 
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scratch. This hull just sold................ back to drawing boards.


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