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 Post subject: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:28 pm 
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I just got my first sailboat, a 1975 Hobie 16 and it has no downhaul. Do I need a downhaul? How important is it to racing or just light wind cursing? Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:03 am 
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Very important. Take a good look at your mast and I'll bet you have the cleat necessary for an old boat. We had a very early 70s boat when i was growing up and a simple rope from the foot of the sail through center of the cleat, back up and then cinched to the cleat will do the trick.


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:16 am 
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jpedsailing wrote:
Do I need a downhaul? How important is it to racing or just light wind cursing?


You'll need one to race, but there's absolutely no need for a downhaul in order to curse light wind! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:43 am 
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The standard downhaul on the H16 is very basic. Just a single piece of line. As FlyNavy said, all you do is tie it off to the loop at the bottom of the gooseneck (the part that connects the boom to the mast), pass it down through the center of the cleat, back up through the gooseneck loop, and finally back down to the cleat. This gives you a 3:1 purchase. If you want to get fancy you can add a small block to the gooseneck to reduce friction, and if you want to get really fancy, you can install the 6:1 racing downhaul.

In any case, to answer your question - yes, you need to use the downhaul. It is critical to controlling sail shape. In light wind, pull it snug so all or most of the wrinkles are removed from the mainsail. In strong wind, pull it down tight to flatten the sail.

No problems with cursing light wind, but just be sure to also give thanks to the wind gods when it blows.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Yep... NEED a downhaul system.. Getting a 3:1 purchase like SRM works 'fine'.

And to help put a bit more downhaul in for a windy day.. Point the boat into the wind and sheet the main in fairly snug. This will make it easier to do more than just pull the wrinkles out of the sail..



On a calm day.. Sheet in the main.. and then play around with the downhaul.. The changes in sail shape are obvious.


I just upgraded to a 6:1 downhaul system.. I have no idea how I ever did it any other way.. it is really really easy to get used to all the bells and whistles.


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:11 pm 
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Thanks so much for your input everyone. I'll probably be buying one before my first regatta on june 7th.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:17 pm 
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Hey jpedsailing,

I have a new harken 3:1 downhaul kit still in the unopened bag - http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc ... re_Code=MS

I ordered it last fall and then changed my mind and got a 6:1 before I got a chance to use it. It's yours for $20 + a couple bucks for shipping. PM me if you want it.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:52 pm 
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I think I'll pass for now but thanks for the offer. If I do get one I'll go for the 6:1. Thanks anyways.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:29 am 
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jpedsailing wrote:
GN_NC
I think I'll pass for now but thanks for the offer. If I do get one I'll go for the 6:1.


Here's some unsolicited advice that I feel compelled to give since it appears that you're just starting out and your boat is very old. While I, like ronholm, dig my 6:1 downhaul, it costs like $200, and is probably the last upgrade you need to be considering. It's not going to do you much good on a '75 boat unless you've got much newer sails, 6:1 mainblocks, newer standing rigging that allows more mast rake, and adjustable rake rudder castings and racing rudders that can handle the mast rake. I'd recommend that you get the gooseneck bearing if you don't have one already, rig the standard 3:1 downhaul with 3/16" line per srm's instructions, and spend your money on something else.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:12 pm 
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I agree with Jerome. I have a '78 and there is a tons of other stuff that I would rather upgrade first.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:51 am 
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Okay, I really do need a few other things first before that, and I do have the old downhaul set up, I just didn't realize it. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:09 am 
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Very good....glad to help!

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:54 pm 
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GD_NC wrote:
Hey jpedsailing,

I have a new harken 3:1 downhaul kit still in the unopened bag - http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc ... re_Code=MS

I ordered it last fall and then changed my mind and got a 6:1 before I got a chance to use it. It's yours for $20 + a couple bucks for shipping. PM me if you want it.

Do you still have the downhall kit?


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:41 am 
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sxr, here you go, $10 cheaper than murrays
http://www.saltydogmarine.com/product_info.php?products_id=1938
don't get me wrong, I love murrays, but $$ is $$

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 downhaul
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:18 am 
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I bought it from him!!!!!!!!!! he had replied by PM!! funnything, I started to reply last night saying I had gotten it!


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