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 Post subject: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:51 am 
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Changing from standard to Aussie Jib Halyard - silly question, but I assume the new longer forestay attaches to the shackle also so the will be 4 eyes attached to the tang shackle as opposed to the usual 3?

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:59 am 
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Yes, I think it's 4. the port and starbord side stays, the forestay and the halyard pigtail.... 4.


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:09 am 
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Thanks Flip, now I noticed that my forestay was not long enough to reach the bridle chainplate (even with the extension) so guessing that it is an older shorter forestay designed to be attached to the bottom of the old style halyard block? Also, does the aussie system utilize the cheek block on the mast or go straght to the horn cleat?

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:53 am 
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It should have a cheek block at the base of the mast. I would recomend getting the setup as shown by mmadge in the image below. I did this to my hobie 16 and it works great. The dealer told me to tie a slip knot in the expensive halyard then loop around the cheek block and use it similar to a truckers knot to tighten the jib. I noticed it causing kniks in the line and sometimes it was difficult to untie. So after a few times out I went to the dealer and ordered the second cheek block, cam cleat and horn cleat as shown. I also got the down-haul (as shown) and the out haul all in one kit from hobie.

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:11 am 
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Nice set up,is there a cheek block on the front side of your mast that I can't see?Please post another photo to clarify.Thanks :D

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:13 pm 
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Bill 404 wrote:
Nice set up,is there a cheek block on the front side of your mast that I can't see?Please post another photo to clarify.Thanks :D
Yes, MBounds verified the single cheek block was
moved to the front of the mast in '04-'05
(moved from original position on the Port side of mast)

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:56 pm 
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A couple of questions...

1. Am I right in thinking that the only point of the cheek blocks is to move the halyard around from the front of the mast to the side so it can go through a cam cleat which would otherwise not fit on the front and would get in the way of the job?

2. I assume the lowest cheek block is on the front so the halyard comes down straight?... so as I am changing to an aussie halyard and I already have a cheeck block at the lower position but on the side, then I would be better off drilling the rivets out and re-siting it on the front. Or should I just leave it on the side and not worry about the halyard pulling down to that side.

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:03 am 
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I like that halyard setup in photo,where do I get that cam cleat base piece at?
Part #? :D
Thanks,Bill 404 21SE

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:32 pm 
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From page 25 of the Hobie Catalog, part number 2091 H16 power pak.

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Don't quote me on this because I got it a year ago:
I beleive I got the cheek block, the cam cleat, the curved base for the cam cleat and the horn cleat. It also comes with the 6:1 down haul, the base bracket for the down haul and the 2:1 out haul. I can't remember if it came with rivets and sleeves but I don't think it did. I think I had to buy them for the installation as well. You will also need a small "S" hook for the down haul.

I love this set up. It is much better than stock and still race legal. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:20 am 
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Thanks Flip57,
I already have the two cheek blocks and a cam cleat.I only want at this time to purchase that base piece so I can complete the jib halyard upgrade.
What is the part number of that base piece to hold the cam cleat on the mast?
In the parts and accessories 2010-11 catalog page 25 that power pack for the H16 is noted as to what is included in the pack but a photo and parts break down would add clarity...thanks
Bill 404 21SE

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:40 am 
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Bill,

:?: Ya got me... I looked it up online. I did the same thing you did and bought the cam cleat and cheek block and then could not find the base so I ended up just buying the kit. I figured it was worth it with the down haul and out haul included.

You should probably talk to a dealer about that :idea:

I'm just a sailor... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:11 am 
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I found this on the Ronstan website - it might be the part we have been looking for, but not sure of the size

http://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=RF5416#Applications

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:42 am 
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That's the same block I used for the cam cleat, works fine, could do with a bit of filing to get it to fit perfectly.....

Long winded question:
I have just measured my original forestay assembly (non-aussie from the mast tang shackle to the adjuster) and it comes to 18' 2 5/8".
From what I have gathered from doing a bit of research, the aussie forestay should be 18’ 9 3/4”. This is quite a big difference and if I were to put one on I think my mast would be raked back too much, i already get the main sheet blocks within 4 inches of each other when sheeted in hard.
So, should I get a new forestay made up to match my current length, or the length I found when researching? I could move the forestay down the adjuster, that would give me a couple of inches.

Also, how are these wire lengths specified? - I was going from the inside of the thimble eye which seemed sensible.

Thanks in advance!


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:25 am 
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findbluesky wrote:
So, should I get a new forestay made up to match my current length, or the length I found when researching? I could move the forestay down the adjuster, that would give me a couple of inches.


findbluesky

On the chance you still frequent the forum, did you ultimately decide the aussie forestay length may "allow" for more rake, but the tensioning of the jib halyard "determines" the rake (given enough forestay length)?

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 Post subject: Re: Aussie forestay
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:32 am 
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ScotsSailor,

The sidestays determine the mast rake as the aussie jib halyard tensions the rig through the jib wire. The forestay goes slack when rigged properly.


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