[quote]With another year under your belt, I am curious what you think about your H16 spinnaker? Have you been able to work out the kinks so that the spinnaker is a reliable sail? Has the bridle hardware ripped your spinnaker to shreds yet?
And finally, you mentioned that you were considering an F18 boat. If you did acquire an F18, how would you compare the H16 spinnaker configuration with that boat, which is designed for a spinnaker?
Any honest feedback that you can provide would be much appreciated!!! Thanks a lot!
Hi Leigh. The 16 spin is fun. (necessary - no) I needed "MORE THAN A 16" so I thought the spin would be it... wasn't really it. It worked well, but is ALOT OF EXTRA SETUP. I would not recommend a spin unless
1. you race with other 16s with spins.
2. you can leave your boat on shore - mast up and spin pole in place. (cover the spin in the bag).
3. you setup to sail for long periods. to make all the setup worth while.
Needing more than a 16 I went and added the spin. Still wasn't enough. I picked up a 18SX and was having a lot more fun with it. Faster, more STABLE more sail area and the thing screams. I then found a used spin for it. But did I want to add all that extra setup? I figured I'd add the spin to the 18 and sell the 16. Then one of our group put his Tiger up for sale. He got it from our buddy Matt Bounds on here, and now I have it. I've just installed a "new" spinnaker on it and I have a new tramp coming for it as well. Sailing the F18 boat is even cooler than the 18SX. (but I love the wings and so does the wife... so I keep the 18sx for short after noon or day sails. I also race it on tuesday eves with Fleet 519.
Spins are a lot of setup and hassle - because of that I did sell the 16 and spin (to someone in British Columbia... I'm in Michigan!
and since getting the tiger and spin - I have decided to sell my used spin I bought for the 18SX. I don't want to add a spin to that boat because both boats will be lots of work to setup and pickup. so I use the 18 without spin for sailing where I setup and take down the same day. (racing tues nights etc).
The F18 I use for CRAM events.. racing on weekends when I can set it up friday night. (it's less work if everyone is setting up together - its more fun) I can then sail Sat and sun - and we all pack up together. That's the only way the spin is worth the effort.
Right now the Tiger is setup on my daughters beach (inland lake - quite small) but I can leave it setup and sail it every other day with no more effort than raising the sails. But in a couple weeks I pack it up again to trailer to the next CRAM race. (For me I think that will be Higgens Lake).
Spins are beautiful. (more so to watch than to sail) because from drivers seat - you don't see it much. Crew gets to enjoy it a bit more... It was easy to solo on the 16 with main and spin. But for me - I tend to get into hobbies deeper and deeper unitl the WORK IS MORE HASSLE THAN THE FUN. I feared this with the spin for the 18 and getting the Tiger. I've not sold the tiger yet... it's just SO SEXY to sail it - it's just rock steady and cuts flat and solid through the chop. It's worth the hassle if I can get more than one day of sailing out of the setup and tear down time. Spins are also expensive. The set for the 16 was around 1600.
One mishap and I had a 250 buck repair after first time out.
The spin on the Tiger I also damaged (my fault) trying to pack up by tearing down as little as possible and trying to leave spin pole on the boat. About 100.00 repair. Then I wanted a SNU bag system and that was a bit over 500. I wanted a new black spin and that was (a special deal at around 1100.) So it's not a cheap bit of business.
I don't think I could recommend the spin for the 16. It's STILL A 16... and while the 16 is a fun boat... it's still a 16. I've owned about 8 of them in the past 6 years. I'll probably not own another. I guess I outgrew them, I started trailering and going to the great lakes and larger bodies of water. the 16 is a great inland lake boat. They're cool - if you don't mind lots of extra work to sail, or trailer and you got money to burn... give it a shot.
If you want more excitement from your sailing - the spin won't really do it on the 16. I think like me - you may need a 18 to get that next level of excitement. While I love my 18SX (2000) she's really not much more work than a 16 to prep. (add dagger boards and wings). What I like is she's stable in big water. On the other hand if you can find a F18 boat - you get a spin in the deal - and you get the most exhilarating ride. The stability... I feel like I'm riding on the back of a GREAT WHITE. The spin if mishandled will throw you up and spit you out. (as I had happen last week as I was trying to see if I could solo sail the Tiger and spin setup I just upgraded. Over all I did - but I learned I shouldn't... it was way to much work and after 60 minutes i was totally drained. (well the 22 mile ride ride before I sailed may have been part of that.). If you wanna see that video look me up on Facebook Ron Kramer
I was doing my first solo f18 spin stuff - just added new sail and snu. Was trapping out down wind on the aft footstrap. A puff came and pulled me up - I released the sheet as to not go over and I slammed down - and lost my footing. A did a (quite fun) peter pan along the side of the boat and almost pulled it over - pushed the stick to get myself back on board and to get the opposite hull down and slithered aboard. (saying a little prayer of thanks).
here's a direct link - really quite a MILD day - and still - check out how the TIGER IS LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10 ... =2&theater
Was I of any help?