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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:43 am 
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Is the weight of each hull still stamped on the transom of each hull after production?

In this post, MBounds discusses it.

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I'm interested in getting a new boat for racing, but don't want a boat with two 72lbs hulls, this would make it 8lbs heavier than a boat with two 68lbs hulls.

I've asked my Hobie dealer what the weight is on the boats they have in stock and they have no idea what i'm talking about.

Has the manufacturing process improved to the point of ensuring each boat produced and shipped is AT minimum weight of 320lbs? Thus no longer requiring the weight of each hull to be stamped?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:50 am 
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Pretty sure that they no longer do engrave the Hull Weights.Also not sure they are at the point where the weight tolerance is that close.Last N.A. At FWB, I seen the weight of new boats vary from 313 lbs to 328lbs.Some guys I know weigh the hulls and match up light ones.Does not really pay to be under min. As you have to carry weigh.I was fortunate my 2006 weights in at 319lbs.Never been asked to carry one lb of weight.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:38 am 
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mmadge wrote:
Pretty sure that they no longer do engrave the Hull Weights.Also not sure they are at the point where the weight tolerance is that close.Last N.A. At FWB, I seen the weight of new boats vary from 313 lbs to 328lbs.Some guys I know weigh the hulls and match up light ones.Does not really pay to be under min. As you have to carry weigh.I was fortunate my 2006 weights in at 319lbs.Never been asked to carry one lb of weight.



Coming from car racing I would think there is some (albeit small) advantage to having a substantially underweight boat, and getting to choose where you would add the weight..

Of course though the crew weight movement is going to have a bigger effect... but I would think you could make your job marginally easier.. As in on a light air day you could carry the weight forward... and on a heavy air day move it back... Or... Whatever.... Or if you added the weight inside the hull... Glued to the keel... It would have to be marginally better than a boat carrying the weight slightly higher...

Not certain it would win a guy any races on something like an H16, given the percentages of boat/crew weight we are talking about..... And Lord knows since I am always sailing with crew weight well over minimum isn't something I would bother with...

but still...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:20 am 
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mmadge wrote:
Pretty sure that they no longer do engrave the Hull Weights.Also not sure they are at the point where the weight tolerance is that close.Last N.A. At FWB, I seen the weight of new boats vary from 313 lbs to 328lbs.


A 15lbs weight range is rather surprising.

If I were to get a new boat I'd prefer to be just a couple of lbs under weight, so that when I add a few things I would still be at 320lbs. This would allow for double grommeting the tramp, adding adjustable trap wires, side-rail neoprene, etc.

In the end I do believe weight matters a lot on these boats, that's part of the "one-design" aspect. I race against boats with crews at (probably below) the class min of 285lbs, where we weigh around 300lbs. So, to also have a boat that is 328 lbs out of the box would be a further detriment.

If they stopped engraving the hulls with the weight, is there any other assurance of getting a boat out of the box that weighs at/or below minimum? When they are shipped, do they weigh the boxes, something? $10,000+ is a lot for a new boat and not be sure it is overweight........


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:25 am 
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Here is a picture of one of my current hulls for reference.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:21 am 
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You sound very much like myself when I bought my new boat.In hindsight with your crew weight of 300 ,which is just about perfect IMO,I think you will be very happy with a new boat.New boats are faster,everything is stiff and crisp.Not sure when they weigh the boats at the N.A. It is all that accurate.BTW the team that had the 328 lb boat came top 5.Also no need for double crommets that is already taken care of.Big thing with new boat is make sure the mast is straight and no noticeable defects or dents in the hull.Remember the Hulls only make up a little over half the total boat weight,so you could drive yourself crazy weighing everything (cross bars, boom ,mast....).
Save yourself some weight and invest in a Carbon Fiber Tiller,nice and light and very easy to fling around on tacks and gybe s.


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