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 Post subject: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:21 pm 
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If you were to build a dream 16, what components would you use? What changes would you make? How would you rig it?

It would be cool to see some pics of things you have done to your boat to make it faster, easier to rig, or just bad to the bone! I'm sure I coiuld learn a thing or two and it would really help the new 16 owner.


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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Stock, brand new from the factory 2010 Hobie 16.

The only thing you need to add are a few tell-tales, a bridle fly and the side rail non-skid of your choice.

Well . . . you asked.


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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:19 pm 
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What is a brand new hobie 16 selling for these days?


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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:49 am 
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Boat only 9700 or so. It's worth every penny as maintenance and upgrades are a thing of the past (for a few years at least) and the boat sails like a dream!

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:40 am 
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I started looking for a used H-16 25 years ago and quickly realized that buying a new one wasn't that much more expensive (at that time). I never regretted buying the new boat and in 25 years have not had to spend much on repairs or replacements. The boat has had a lot of use in that time. Rudder cams have been replaced 3 or 4 times, shrouds a couple of times. Biggest expense was sails that I replaced even though the old ones were still usable. In fact I sold them to someone who was just starting out with a used boat. To me a dream 16 is any stock boat I can get on and sail. The only alteration I like is the replacement of the mast hinge with the Murray's hinge. It avoids the toggle problem of the old style hinge when raising the mast. It must be removed completely for sailing but that is a small inconvenience.

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:36 am 
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Hey hrtsailor, I looked at the Murray's mast step once but decided against it because it seemed to me that it could break the mast step if the mast really wanted to move a little off center while stepping; Was I over reacting?

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:51 am 
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Just use the hobie step, but don't bolt it in. Use 2 #1 Phillips screwdrivers, one for the base, one for the mast. Presto, your stock step will last almost forever! Keep them all in your tool box or trailer box and just take em out when stepping. Mast up, pull out the drivers and toss it all in your box.

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:04 am 
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Interesting, I'm already using one #1 screwdriver so I'll get another and see how that goes. As it is, I bend the lower pin every time I raise the mast. Why is that?

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:10 am 
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Jman6631 wrote:
Interesting, I'm already using one #1 screwdriver so I'll get another and see how that goes. As it is, I bend the lower pin every time I raise the mast. Why is that?


Large force on very small area. Something I remember from Physics class, lol. sorry, I know that wasn't helpful. :mrgreen:


But to answer the OP's question, I would like to order new custom hobie sails in the "spirit of 76" color scheme from 1976. Loved that.


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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:04 am 
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Ok, my dream 16 would have a ball and socket upgrade for the mast step......couldn't help it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:02 pm 
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Jman,

I hope you were over reacting. I don't see a problem. I am a retired engineer so I appreciate the forces involved. There is enough "slop" in the link that I don't foresee any undue strain on the mast base. The standard link doesn't solve the problem I have of getting the mast link to "toggle" and drop the mast in place. Using screwdrivers for pins is a nice emergency move if you have lost pins but I never have had to do that. They don't solve the problem either. Removing tight pins is usually just a matter of pulling a little on the forestay to take the pressure off the pin. I raise the mast alone most of the time and have been doing it for 25 years. Old age is catching up with me and I can't quite get the link to toggle the way I used to by kind of flipping the mast up a little. I also had heart surgery 3 years ago so I don't have the upper body strength I used to have. At age 76 I am lucky to still be sailing.

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:25 pm 
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No problem Howard, with most "issues" I encounter I end up modifying my approach and find success.

Man, I gotta admire you still reigning the beast in at 76, I can only hope... Please, no offense meant.....

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:05 am 
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Jman,

Certainly no offense taken. I am lucky to be in shape to keep sailing and expect to do so for a couple of more years at least. I hope it makes the point that we have a great sport that keeps you going and keeps you in shape. As to the link for raising the mast, it is probably the only thing on my Hobie that I feel needed improvement. Unfortunately, I haven't been on or near the newest model H-16 so I can only compare it to my '85 model.

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 Post subject: Re: Dream sixteen
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:58 am 
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Understood, well thanks for the advise.

And you are indeed correct, this can certainly be a long-term love affair as your continued participation proves. Good for you buddy!

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