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Author:  mmadge [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  End caps on the rudders arms

Are they suppose to have play?I can,t remember.I am going over my 2006 Hobie to see what is worn and needs replacing.Does not seem to effect the overall stiffness of rudder steering when connected to tiller.

Author:  mmiller [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

End caps loose in the tiller arms? Any added play / slop will effect toe-in while sailing.

Author:  mmadge [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

I am talking about the caps Hobie 20 style caps on the end of rudders tiller arm that attach to the tiller crossbar.
The other question is if they are loose and need to be tightened ,how do you do it?

Author:  mmiller [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

There is a bolt inside the end fitting. You would have to remove the fitting (rivets) to get at it. May be in with Loc Tite too, but would be adjustable if you can get it apart.

Parts guide shows it: http://static.hobiecat.com/digital_assets/H14-16_Parts.pdf

Top / middle page two.

Author:  mmadge [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

So that cap should be tight?

Author:  mmiller [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

Should pivot with a little resistance. That takes the lateral slop out.

In function, it needs to pivot a few degrees to reduce load in the fittings when the rudders are hard over. France uses the same parts on the Tiger and they tightened it down, but the tiller arms were a little different.

Author:  mmadge [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

Thanks Matt,also I found this link.
http://largiader.com/hobie/tillercon.html

Author:  AntonLargiader [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

Cool! I wish I'd taken pictures of the final product; I don't know why I didn't. Maybe was in a rush to get back on the water. :)

Author:  mmadge [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

Thanks for posting that.How hard was it to get the bolt loose?

Author:  AntonLargiader [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

In my case I think I didn't even have to heat it. It was not loose by any means, though.

Matt, the diagram lists two washers: the 8080681 and the 8080691. I only found one (the white nylon-looking one in my picture). What is the other and where does it go?

Author:  gary eudy [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

I still have the KISME connectors O slop no problems other than getting old Still wish that they were a Hobie Cat Part
Former Hobie Admiral Gary

Author:  mmiller [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

8080691 WASHER 3/8 X 3/4 NYLON-FLAT

8080681 WASHER 5/16 X 1/2 X .030 NYLON
Image

Second one is the small one that rests on the connector pin. Between / bearing-for the tiller crossbar and the tiller arm.

Author:  rattle 'n hum [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

Nice thread!

Author:  AntonLargiader [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

mmiller wrote:
Second one is the small one that rests on the connector pin. Between / bearing-for the tiller crossbar and the tiller arm.


Thanks! I don't have any washers there, so I guess they will be on my next order. So it's washer, tiller end, and then clip. Are they tight enough on the posts that they stay in place?

Author:  mmadge [ Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: End caps on the rudders arms

I think I found an easier sol,n,electrician tape.Couple wraps and it snugged it right up.I already ordered the other parts so I guess I will fix it right.

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