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 Post subject: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:32 am 
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Has anyone tried constructing runners to attach to an H-16 (or maybe a 14) for use on ice? I wonder how it worked if so? Starting to look like cold weather around here.


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:15 am 
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Pick up a DN for $1200 or less and let your Hobie hibernate.


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:17 am 
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A long time ago, a buddy of mine and I sailed a 16 on ice.

It was on the lower Chesapeake Bay and there was a 200 yd ice shelf extending out from the beach.

We would gain speed on the water, ride up on the ice shelf and could go a hundred yards or so on the ice before we lost momentum. It was pretty wild - no steering, no control.

When the boat stopped,we'd get off and push the boat back out to open water and do it all over again. It was good, no cost fun for a while.

But really, a Hobie 16 is too heavy to make a good ice boat.


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:04 am 
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I have seen guys use Hobie sails and Mast on there own home built iceboats.Lot of sail area for an Iceboat,but he does get some serious speed.
Speaking of Iceboating the lakes are already kicking in up here in Northern Ontario.The DN class is running a lone a boat program to new iceboaters.Go to this link for details.
http://www.iceboat.org


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:39 pm 
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mmadge wrote:
I have seen guys use Hobie sails and Mast on there own home built iceboats.Lot of sail area for an Iceboat,but he does get some serious speed.
Speaking of Iceboating the lakes are already kicking in up here in Northern Ontario.The DN class is running a lone a boat program to new iceboaters.Go to this link for details.
http://www.iceboat.org


Cool site, thanks for the link. I wonder if actual blades would allow a 14 to work on ice as opposed to using the hulls. Pressure and liquid medium being the focus of blades. Now I can look forward to another addiction. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:22 am 
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I don't see a practical way to use the frame of a Hobie. The steering is all wrong, and you don't want to be sitting ON the boat with those kinds of cornering forces and acceleration. Take advantage of the decades of iceboat development.

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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:01 pm 
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AntonLargiader wrote:
I don't see a practical way to use the frame of a Hobie. The steering is all wrong, and you don't want to be sitting ON the boat with those kinds of cornering forces and acceleration. Take advantage of the decades of iceboat development.


Of course you're right but it was fun to think about. No real way to steer the boat even if it would glide.


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 Post subject: Re: Ice Skates
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:58 am 
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It IS tempting! Hey, it's sun & wind & speed. But another thing I thought about is that the bolted aluminum construction of the Hobie frame is probably not a good match for the hard impacts that you get on ice. I think you'd end up with a trashed frame. Plus the frame itself doesn't offer shrouds or a forestay. In the end there's really nothing usable there but the mast step.

If ice sailing were as slow and gentle as water sailing, it would be different. And I think that's where the idea comes from.

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