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Author: | BEL666 [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:23 am ] |
Post subject: | New hobie I-cat |
Hi, Any news on the I-cat in the US? Will the boat be available there? What do you guys think about it? http://www.hobie-cat.net/img/news/icat_paris.jpg http://www.hobie-cat.net/img/news/icat_paris2.jpg Gill |
Author: | Karl Brogger [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:40 am ] |
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I really want to know what it weighs. Somebody on Catsailor was told the iCat would cost 17,500 Euro, which means the boat is going to be at least $25k in the US. That doens't include the spinnaker, or a jib. Very cool though, it looks like the hull shape is the same, but its tough with the dark colour and the from a picture though. It doesn't have the decks like the FXone either. Looks like from the specs that it is 2" narrower, and 2" longer than the FXone. or, its a typo. |
Author: | H14Turbo [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:57 pm ] |
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I heard that I will weigh about 100kg. Not bad for a cat that size. |
Author: | Karl Brogger [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:05 pm ] |
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100kg = 220 lbs. That thing will be wicked if thats the case. |
Author: | BEL666 [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:39 am ] |
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Price will be around 17.500 according to Hobie Europe. No confirmation about the weight. For a carbon cat (alu mast) it should be around 100 kgs. I also guess the information enclosed is the correct info: HOBIE code name « CARBON » Technical data 􀂃 Length : 5,25 m 􀂃 Width : 2,55 m 􀂃 Mast height : 8,50 m 􀂃 Main sail area : 16 m² The cat sure looks nice, but any idea what the strategy is behind this? They built a nice cat, but not out of any possible class (not FX One, not F16, not 1.04 (sort of 'class' in France), .... I don't understand what the target group is. I'm guessing, you love the FX One, so you continue in that class or you want something lighter with the same specs -> you buy a cheaper cat that is part of a world wide class -> F16. Gill[/img] |
Author: | Karl Brogger [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:33 pm ] |
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I'm not sure what the thinking is behind it. If I were HCE I would have made it F16 compliant. It'd still be an expensive option for F16 though. I'm sure they could find a way to add 10lbs of weight as well to get it up to F16 minimums , or maybe adding a spinnaker is enough to do this. Who knows. I was talking to another sailor about the iCat last week, we both came to the conclusion it'd be nice having a 220lb 17ft boat. A full 100lbs lighter than the FXone. It's gotta be a rocket, the FXone has a sandbag rating. Loosing that much weight would definetly put a smile on my face. |
Author: | BEL666 [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:55 pm ] |
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Karl, Just buy an F16 if you want a fast and light boat... I hope to sail an I-cat this summer in Holland, I'll tell you what it feels like! Regards, Gill |
Author: | J_Eaton [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:29 pm ] |
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Karl Brogger wrote: I'm not sure what the thinking is behind it. If I were HCE I would have made it F16 compliant. It'd still be an expensive option for F16 though. I'm sure they could find a way to add 10lbs of weight as well to get it up to F16 minimums , or maybe adding a spinnaker is enough to do this. Who knows.
I don't think the F16 is on the radar in France, but maybe Gill can change that by continuing to race at Carnac... Regardless, seems like the F104 thing has been dormant for a while so maybe the HCE thinking is start a new OD class with old molds...making a new, lightweight boat without really designing a new boat, just changing construction materials and methods. Keeps them out of the formula class (or A class) arms race, IF the class takes off and is successful. They wont have to introduce the J-cat, to replace the I-cat, in five years to "keep up" with the competition (ala Tiger and Wildcat). ...and doesn't the EUR to USD exchange rate just BLOW!!! Who knows?..certainly not me |
Author: | Karl Brogger [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:03 pm ] |
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actually the exchange rate has settled down pretty well. about $1.28 = 1 Euro. That beats the pants off of $1.65 This is not a FXone hull shape. Its longer, the bows are different, the 2 deck panels on each hull are gone, and from the crappy 3D rendering pics it looks like its using a waaayyy longer board. It looks real similar from the pics, but I bet if you put the two side by side it would be really noticable. People think the FXone is spendy, tack another $5k on the price and only stupid people like me buy them. I wouldn't hold my breath for a class to develop. Who know's though, A-cats aren't cheap and their 2nd in numbers only to probably the cheapest racing class the H16. (I don't really count waves, all though I should) I also wish they would've picked a better name. iCrap is the first thing that comes to mind. Having a last name that is so easily associated with bouger and getting teased through childhood make me think on names. I tried to duplicate the camera angle, but theres a wall in the way and I'm honestly too lazy to move the boat. |
Author: | J_Eaton [ Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:27 am ] |
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Quote: This is not a FXone
Well "blow me down!", very interesting indeed. ps I will read all the previous posts before posting, I will read all the previous posts before posting, I will read all the previous posts before posting... ps |
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