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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:00 am 
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What would you consider a fair price range for a "like new" (lightly used, well maintained, ready to sail) 1999 Hobie 17 Sport with trailer?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:25 am 
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adamb wrote:
What would you consider a fair price range for a "like new" (lightly used, well maintained, ready to sail) 1999 Hobie 17 Sport with trailer?

Thanks,
Adam

Like everything - it depends.

One man's idea of "well maintained" is another man's piece of junk.
Stored in a garage? Or left in the sun (and snow)? What's the trampoline like? What kind of rudders does it have?

What's the trailer condition? Gavlanized or painted steel or aluminum? All the lights work? What's the size / condition of the tires?

If the boat still has the original main sail, it's probably close to delaminating if it's not already.

Going on the assumption there are no significant issues, like leaking wing tubes or soft spots and sight unseen, the boat is probably worth $3500 or less. Trailer is probably worth $250 (steel), $350 (galvanized) or $500+ (aluminum). Aluminum trailers need to be thoroughly inspected for fatigue cracks.

To really make an estimate, though - we need photos (more the better).


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:52 am 
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Here is the listing:

http://sailingtexas.com/201201/shobie17107.html

And here are some more photos:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1106457085 ... directlink

Also included:

toy box
mast caddy
trailer 3d wheel
trapeze harness
tramp bag
sail & spar bag
bearing buddies
Hobie instructional video

may be included:

hull covers (2)
wing covers (2)
jib snorkel (cover)
mast (Comptip) cover
righting bucket


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:26 pm 
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That one is also for sale in the "For Sale" section here. It does appear to be in exceptional shape.

All I'll say is that it's overpriced.

My 17 is one of the last ones made (a 2007) and it cost (new from the dealer) just over $10K (a Sport, no trailer or extras).


Last edited by MBounds on Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:38 am, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Your add:

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easily single-handed; ideal for 2; accommodates 4.


This is a gross exaggeration -- mildly speaking. More accurate:

"ideal for 1; accommodates 2."

For anyone familiar with H17, you just put in doubt the rest of the add... For anyone not familiar with H17 -- setting for a disappointment.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:36 am 
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Thanks everyone for your input.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:37 pm 
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My 17 is one of the last ones made (a 2007) and it cost (new from the dealer) just over $10K (a Sport, no trailer or extras).


I have a feeling that the $10K was a special 'mbounds' price, unless the dealer was just trying to get rid of it. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:24 pm 
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fastcat wrote:
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My 17 is one of the last ones made (a 2007) and it cost (new from the dealer) just over $10K (a Sport, no trailer or extras).


I have a feeling that the $10K was a special 'mbounds' price, unless the dealer was just trying to get rid of it. :wink:
Not really. I did bargain with him; after all, he had been sitting on it for 6 months. Nobody likes carrying boat inventory past August (when I bought it).


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:28 pm 
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MBounds, SWEET, what a great deal. With modification, the H16 integrated track cars work well in the track of the front crossbar.
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=61752&g2_imageViewsIndex=1


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:57 pm 
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fastcat wrote:
MBounds, SWEET, what a great deal. With modification, the H16 integrated track cars work well in the track of the front crossbar.
http://www.thebeachcats.com/pictures/?g2_itemId=61752&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Well, since I use it pretty much exclusively for one-design racing, the front track really doesn't do much for me. I sold off the Sport-specific equipment (I never even unpacked the jib), bought a boom and a mast rotator and stripped off all the other hardware to convert the boat to an SE. The only things left from the Sport are the eye straps on the front crossbar, since I thought I might use them in a positive mast rotation system (but haven't yet).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:01 am 
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MBounds wrote:
My 17 is one of the last ones made (a 2007) and it cost (new from the dealer) just over $10K (a Sport, no trailer or extras).


Hey Matt, I thought the last run of 17s was in Oct 2003. As I remember we had to get a group of 10 to commit to buying the run before they would proceed.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:32 pm 
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According to the barcode sticker on the transom of my boat, it was built on 9/15/06.

I just updated it today with the 2012 hull graphics.
Before:
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After:
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:42 am 
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Consider this...are you buying the boat for personal pleasure and do you put a price on that? Are you going to use it and be happy that you bought something that's nice and ready to sail?

I bought a '99 H17s this year and paid $5k. Had two sets of sails among all the extras. Did I overpay? Maybe...but am I completely satisfied? You bet.

Edit: If you want to talk about it you can PM me and we can talk on the phone about my entire experience...too lazy to type it all out but I can tell you what to look for and how much money I've spent since I got it sailing.

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