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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:55 pm 
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14 Turbo ..
Hull numbers "M80H" means late 1980, as I understand it ... but the Turbo was not introduced until 1982.

Are there any clues as to whether this is a factory-turbo'ed or a retrofit ?

Also, "CCMB" ... is that "B" a 14 or 16 model designation?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:20 pm 
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B is the original Hobie 16 designation. (A is a 14)

Based on that, you're looking at a 16, not a 14.

Distinguishing feature between them is that the shrouds on a 16 attach to the deck lip on the hull; on a 14, they attach to the sidebars.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:06 pm 
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another Distinguishing feature is the 16 will be about 2' longer than the a 14 :)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:22 pm 
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Time to dig out the tape measure .... maybe I need to measure the mast too ...

The jib blocks are mounted in the tramp, like a Turbo & the side stays are attached to the tramp frame ....

And the serial number looks original, the same on both hulls ...

I'll let y'all know ...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:34 pm 
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That all smells of a 14 then, but the number is screwy.


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"B" was used on H14, 16 and Hobie One 14 / Holders.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:49 pm 
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landlocked14 wrote:
14 Turbo ..
Hull numbers "M80H" means late 1980, as I understand it ... but the Turbo was not introduced until 1982.

Are there any clues as to whether this is a factory-turbo'ed or a retrofit ?

Also, "CCMB" ... is that "B" a 14 or 16 model designation?

Much obliged.


I had a '79 and had a turbo kit added by the now extinct Tampa Sailcraft in '84. You could not tell the difference between a factory turbo and the kit added by them.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:48 pm 
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Well, it IS a 14 ... I measured the hulls (and mast).
Thanks mmiller for the B code info.

Now, about the turbo part - does this description sound like a post-production modification? (I have photos, but not sure how to post them) -
The dolphin striker down-strut is A-shaped and mounts to the front crossbar with a "saddle" fitting. The diagonal rod mounts into the corner castings with what appears to be some kind of universal joint on each end.
Roller furler appears to be part of the forestay/jib wire, not a separate rig in addition to the forestay.

Oh yeah ... this boat has Harken main blocks ... were they original equipment (or a later modification by the owner)?

Thanks for your suggestions.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:57 pm 
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landlocked14 wrote:
Now, about the turbo part - does this description sound like a post-production modification? (I have photos, but not sure how to post them) -
The dolphin striker down-strut is A-shaped and mounts to the front crossbar with a "saddle" fitting. The diagonal rod mounts into the corner castings with what appears to be some kind of universal joint on each end.
Roller furler appears to be part of the forestay/jib wire, not a separate rig in addition to the forestay.

Oh yeah ... this boat has Harken main blocks ... were they original equipment (or a later modification by the owner)?

Thanks for your suggestions.


It's aftermarket, the turbo kits had the A-frame striker I believe. As for the blocks, Hobie's came with Seaway blocks, that's what mine are. Harken's would be an upgrade, I guess.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:30 pm 
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Sean - thanks, sounds like I'm seeing the aftermarket dolphin/turbo setup on a 1980 boat
And greetings from south Georgia.

If do I buy this 14T, I won't need the Harkens I bought to replace the Seaways on the 14 I had years ago ... would a set of Harkens be of any value to anybody here?

I'll probably need to replace the trap shock cords ... any suggestions on what to use, given the reality that there is no decent marine supply house locally ? Plain old bungie cord, or marine-grade (if there is such a thing)?

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Tim


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:53 pm 
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Landlocked,

No problem at all! South Georgia, where? I hope if and when you get a Hobie you will join Division 9 and the HCANA. You are more than welcome to come visit Fleet 53 here in Charleston and sail anytime! Drop me an e-mail offline and I'll give you the lowdown on our Division and Fleets. Have a Hobie day!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:53 pm 
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landlocked14 wrote:
I'll probably need to replace the trap shock cords ... any suggestions on what to use, given the reality that there is no decent marine supply house locally ? Plain old bungie cord, or marine-grade (if there is such a thing)?

Regards,
Tim


There are a number of on-line marine stores, and most Hobie Dealers will ship stuff to you. I can order stuff from Annapolis Performance Sailing and it arrives within 2 or 3 days via UPS Ground.


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I prefer to hold some things in my hand, like sheets & lines, before purchasing ... I'll look around on the forum for info on sheet diameters & materials.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:39 am 
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I have an odd problem as well. My two hulls have the same serial number but different model years and months of manufacture.

The two numbers are CCMB4574M78A and CCMB4574M77C

How can something have two dates of manufacture but the same serial number? I guess its possible that the previous owner replaced a hull and somehow miraculously the serial number is the same but that seems a little out there.

Or was the engraver just high on gel coat fumes?

Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:21 am 
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ben-h14 wrote:
I have an odd problem as well. My two hulls have the same serial number but different model years and months of manufacture.

The two numbers are CCMB4574M78A and CCMB4574M77C

How can something have two dates of manufacture but the same serial number? I guess its possible that the previous owner replaced a hull and somehow miraculously the serial number is the same but that seems a little out there.

Or was the engraver just high on gel coat fumes?

Any ideas?


Sometimes the year wasn't engraved until the boats left the factory, but that's a more recent phenomenon. Serial numbers could be coincidence, but unlikely.

It was probably a simple mistake. The newer hull could be a warranty replacement hull, that's supposed to have the identical number as the original. It could have been that the guy had been engraving "78A" all day long and forgot that this one was supposed to be a "77C" instead.


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