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 Post subject: Weight
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:02 pm 
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what is the ideal weight for the hobie 14?

i am only 15 so i only weigh 9 and a half stone. the times i've capsized i've had a safety boat help me get it up. Also i only hav a piece of rope as a righting line that i feed through the middle of the trampoline and pull to right the boat, therefore having to refeed the rope throught the middle of the tramp.

Also it seems that not many youth's sailing hobie's

thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:11 pm 
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I think the ideal weight is probably 70-80kg, i'm 16, and weight 67kg, was not able to right the 14 on my own, i had to design a righting system, now it comes up easily.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:24 pm 
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so ill need to bulk up a bit then :D
and try methods of righting it ,

where in the uk do you sail ? because where i sail mine i do not know of any other hobie's in the area

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:25 pm 
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I sail in Ireland and sometimes in the UK, I am hoping that it might be possible to set a Hobie 14 UK nationals.


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sail in hertfordshire and hampshire a lot,

i would really like a nationals here it would be good to go to

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:47 pm 
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Do you have a Standard 14 or a Turbo?


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i hav got a turbo version sail no is 41 329 so don't know the age of it

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Couple of ideas, too:

1) Make sure your mast is air-tight - no leaks! This makes it easier to right.

2) I've always found that a simple rope is the best righting system. Get it longer than you need and tie knots in it to make it easier to hold. Tie it to the dolphin striker and then coil it up on deck or put it in a tramp-pocket or bag. When you need to right the boat, uncoil it, toss it over the high hull, grab a knot and lean!

Just a thought! I have no idea what the actual weight needed to right the boat is - it depends a lot on technique and on wind.

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I have not much experience in this field being new to sailing, but I have a righting line tied to the shroud connectors on each hull. I found that righting is as much about where on the hull you stand and lean as much as anything. Also, bounce your weight, you'll be surprised how easy the mast pulls free of the water with the right bounce of your weight.

Like tjp says, make sure the mast to completely airtight. Drop it in the lake before rigging and check for bubbles.

I'm 73kg, about 160 pounds and have had no problem righting my H14T. Make sure the mainsheet is loose - a sail full of water is bloody heavy.

Knots in the line would definitely be an advantage I think, will try this next time I go belly up.

Hey, I'm hoping to go hell for leather this weekend so I'll have a bit more capsize experience by Monday!

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Ratface, if you are 9.5 stone thats about 130 pounds. I think I read somewhere you need to be around 150pounds minimum to right solo. Might pay to look at buying a righting bag, or as someone else in the forum suggested, drink more beer!

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Ratface, if you give me your email adress and can send you some detailed photos of my righting system, that works perfectly every time, you can even right the boat with the mast pointing downwind.


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cheers for all these points guys,

my email is [email protected]

will be using my boat this weekend so i can try things out

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I weigh 200 lbs (no idea how many stones that is, but I'll bet its alot.) and I have no trouble righting my 20 or my 16, but I'll be damned if I can EVER get that (censored) 14 to come over. She is a stubborn (censored).


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I know what you mean, I have righted my friends 16 without a problem. But my little 14 can be stubborn. Even when it doesn't try to turtle she can be hard to bring up.

There is a certain style to it, I think that a little bouncing helps!

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I agree with above concept, before I worked out a complicated righting system, the 14 seemed to resist all attemptes to right it, i seemed to stick to the water, I also second the bouncing plan, it can definetly work. Once that mast lifts a bit it generally keeps going.


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