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 Post subject: Hound Congestion
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:30 pm 
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I can't get the trap wires, shrouds and forestay under the original shackle. It's a 3/16" pin, bow type.
It worked before, until I melded together some new rigging and the "best" from a donor 14??? also converted from Turbo to standard...
trashed canned the stuff that had frays so no evidence of it working before remains.
I suppose the thimbles are wider?
:?: :?
Does anyone hang two smaller shackles for the trap wires?
Or should I just go buy a 1/4" pin shackle?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:55 am 
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John,

I employ 2 very small shackles for the trap wires. It eliminates all the fuss upstairs. I also use the larger 1/4" pin sized shackle for the shrouds and forestay. Works for me.

Bob :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:37 am 
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Thank you, Sir

It's only a two day event, but any thought of coming to the Daggerless Regatta?

Have 21 potential H14's on the list and about 16 committed. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:47 am 
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If Curry shows up everyone will go to B fleet.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:09 am 
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Yea, Bob, get your a## in your car, bring me a Hooters shirt from Pensacola (xl) and head on up and do another GEP. I figure if I see enough of your GEPs someday I'll be good on a 14!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:27 pm 
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Please send me a link?

Bob :wink:

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 Post subject: congestion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:11 am 
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I don't have a lot of congestion but I am using the stock shrouds from Hobie. They are small, maybe 3/32. They look the same as the trap wires.

I think I remember that Bob has thicker shrouds on his 14. Is that where the congestion comes from? Where do you get the thicker shrouds? Are they class legal?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:55 am 
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I got a couple of set of rigging from SaltyDog and they seem a bit thicker, which I like for my kids boats for sure. We have had shroud failure a couple of times and its pretty scary, but I don't know what would cause crowding at the top.
I did find that we had to grind the shackle a bit to get the bigger shackle to work with the loops on the ends of the shouds/trap lines.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:55 am 
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mmiller wrote:
Hobie 14 (all 3/32" wire)

Bridle 5 foot 7/8 inches

Forestay 12 foot 8 and 3/4 inches

Shroud 15 foot 3 and 1/4 inches


Bill,

Who's to say they can't be 1/8"? Is it a "loophole"?
More like peace of mind.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:37 am 
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I finally found this photo on the hard drive:
Image

Use the larger shackle from a 16 and put the trap wires on the pin of the shackle.

This is the way the original 16s were rigged before the "3-hole" hound was introduced.

It's kinda hard on the thimbles, but no worries yet.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:46 am 
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Thats pretty friggin' smart.


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 Post subject: class legal
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:22 pm 
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From the general class rules:

15.1 Wires as supplied by the HOBIE CAT CO. shall not be reduced in diameter. They may be
increased in size. All wires may be shortened or lengthened with exception of bridle wires.
15.2 Shrouds and forestays shall connect to the HOBIE CAT CO. supplied shroud adjusters. The twist
toggle shall not be removed and must be used as supplied.
15.3 An additional shroud adjuster may be added to the forestay in lieu of changing wire length.
15.4 The clevis pin and ring on the forestay adjuster, as provided by the HOBIE CAT CO., may be
replaced by a quick-release pin, shackle or like equipment.


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 Post subject: Nice Pic!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:57 pm 
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Thanks Matt for the great Pic! I hated how my wires were. Just got a brand new hotstick for Bobby at the Arriba factory. I'm gonna be so fast at Kansas! Hope to see everyone there!

Bob, you comming over or what?

Paul Bommersbach, Div. 7, Fleet 291


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