Hobie Cat Forums

It is currently Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:10 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:51 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Deck Hand

Joined: Fri May 09, 2014 9:28 am
Posts: 1
Hi everyone!

I've searched quite a bit for this subject and found no results, but am wondering desperately if this can be done.
Being a college student, I would like to save some $. I just recently bought a Hobie 16 & trailer (with everything and TONS of extras for $100!- Older gentlemen who wanted to pass the joys of sailing to someone younger). Took the boat out, and it sails wonderfully, however there is a large portion on the inner port side of the bow that is soft.

Having experience with building surfboards when I was younger, I have used epoxy from SurfSource, the SS2000 to be exact, and have had incredible success. Just wondering, can I use this since it is much cheaper than West Marine Epoxy? It looks to be the same, and am just wanting to keep my expenses very low knowing that the days are limited on this boat.

So what's your take? Surfsource 1/2 gallon is under $60, and 1.5 gal is $100. This is for a two-part kit, versus Spending an easy $150 for a west 1 gallon.

Thanks!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:46 pm 
Offline
Hobie Approved Guru

Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:11 pm
Posts: 4623
Location: Detroit, MI
1) You shouldn't need anywhere near a gallon.
2) Git-Rot is the gold standard for soft spot repair, not WEST Epoxy.
3) Being cheap gets cheap results.

Don't be this guy:
Image
(That is my very good friend John Ellwood Mitchell, with my wife on the sailbox and his then wife Tina on the other hull - circa 1988 - when Ellwood went cheap on repairing his soft spots.)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 10:15 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:31 am
Posts: 59
Location: Michigan
Why is Git-Rot the standard for Delam work over West System Epoxy?
Is it thinner, making it easier to inject?
Or just better designed, for the purpose?

_________________
79 H16 #46803


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:20 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 9226
Location: Oceanside, California
It's designed for a similar purpose. The resin when cured needs to stay flexible too... Git Rot is the right viscosity and final bonding and flex. It works and is easy to work with.

_________________
Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:30 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 9226
Location: Oceanside, California
Fyi... Here is the FAQ on delamination repair: http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1156

Sailing FAQ: http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=18

_________________
Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:53 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:31 am
Posts: 59
Location: Michigan
Thank You, for clearing that up Matt M.,
When I fixed my delam problem on my boat, I used West system epoxy ( I did not know about Git-Rot ) it was old stuff that I wanted to use up that I already had. ( tested a small batch to see if it would still cure ) The things I found while using it were:

West system is a bit to thick, to be injecting into the hulls, felt like I was pumping it in, giving a pressurization effect, which in turn made it keep coming out the venting holes. cleaning up what oozed out was a constant issue, tape of any kind would not hold back the flow out. I used a calking gun with those empty calking gun cartrages that you can mix and fill with epoxy that you can purchase from west system. They work good if you have big areas, like I did.

When I was done, and it had fully cured, the delam areas in front of the pylons were as hard as rock.
In Hindsight Git-Rot would have worked better, being that it is thinner viscosity, stays flexible and would be a lot easier to work with. You would be able to inject it easier and it would probably flow, without pressurizing the hull.

_________________
79 H16 #46803


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group