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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:58 pm 
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I sold my older 2005 Outback a couple of years ago because I greatly disliked the rudder placement. I liked the Outback but I was bringing it up and down a 45% angle hill from the lake and kept banging up the rudder. With newer rudder storage placement, I believe there is a lot less chance of problems now, so I' ready for another.

I plan on using the kayak for both fresh- and saltwater. On the salt-, I am thinking of getting a sail, although I've never sailed and learning how to use it; how hard can it be? :)

I rad a couple of posts on texaskayafisherman.com where others had done this and flipped; I suspect they were just like me, big time neophytes. Someone mentioned that had they had a dagger board or keel, the flipping probably would not have happened. Is this true, and if so, is there a keel or dagger board made that fits into the well made for the Mirage Drive. And, would this work and help for stability and security on the open Gulf.

I know Outbacks are used quite a lot beyond the breakers. What does everyone think of an Outback for a Gulf or near to shore ocean boat? I would appreciate any and all suggestions!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:20 pm 
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I would think leaving the mirage drive in and centered would be the equivalent of having a dagger board. Even more so if you had the larger turbo fins.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:31 pm 
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I had read that too on a texaskayakfisherman.com post but I didn't know if they were stable enough and solid enough to do the job. They don't remain stable beneath the kayak normally and move easily with any peddle pressure or movement.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:51 pm 
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The Mirage Drive will work okay as a daggerboard. Not perfect, but well within the abilities of the boat and size sail.

Get yourself the Ama kit and you almost eliminate the possibility of flipping (nothing is 100% but these make the process about as idiot proof as a human can possibly make something).

Sailing isn't hard. Get yourself a copy of "Sailing for Dummies" by JJ and Peter Isler. In a single night you'll have a pretty good idea of the points of sail and how to achieve each.

Frankly, if I intended to go any distance, or was going to be in the ocean, I'd be darn sure to have a sail. I think more Hobie kayak folks, including fishermen, would only add to their productivity and enjoyment if they got themselves one of the sail kits.


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The PA 12 might be a little more stable in the Gulf, and it is ready for a sail for ocean needs as per Tom.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:12 am 
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You know, I hadn't thought about the PA 12. I've peddled the big one but haven't been in the smaller. How does it compare to the Outback and big Pro Angler?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:58 am 
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Harold ray wrote:
You know, I hadn't thought about the PA 12. I've peddled the big one but haven't been in the smaller. How does it compare to the Outback and big Pro Angler?


Original Pro Angler vs. PA12 from Someone Who Owns Both

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