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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:29 pm 
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Hi Folks,
New outback and Hobie Cart and the cart came with #80044201 cart post clamps/bushings. The instructions are pretty clear to " adjust the bushing position against the bottom of the scuppers and tighten. The cart should contact the keel and both scuppers." Well, with the cart/Kayak combo I have this is not possible. The posts rub the inside of the scuppers as they go in and when the bushings are on, there is no way they hit the bottom of the scuppers. Only the hull. and the instructions are clear that bushings against the hull will warp the hull. Anyone know what's going on? The picture says much.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:32 am 
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The cart clamps are universal and not a perfect fit to hull bottoms. They are a way to reduce load off of the crossbar. On your boat that will do the job as intended to prevent the crossbar from denting the hull. The clamps are hitting an area with more structure. There are a number of posts in forums where people added tennis balls to soften the contact points, but that is a preference and not necessary.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:56 pm 
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I have a different cart and a different kayak, but the same issue.
It strikes me that it's not a "universal" design, but a poor one.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:56 am 
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dcr wrote:
I have a different cart and a different kayak, but the same issue.
It strikes me that it's not a "universal" design, but a poor one.


Well... "Universal" per definition is not a custom fit. The real issue is changes to kayak hull shapes since this was developed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:39 am 
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OK thanks Matt, fair enough.
Perhaps some new bushings are in order.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:51 am 
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Perhaps some new bushings are in order.


Agree. A softer contact would be nice too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:21 pm 
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I cut a couple 2" pieces off a pool noodle. They slide right on, right on top of the bushings.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:17 pm 
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The Op was concerned about an Outback, I am trying to figure out my cart/dolly needs for a 2015 PA 12 I have ordered. The accessories catalog says this is for a TI, do you think it would fit or help with an Outback or a PA?

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The only reason I am so concerned about this is that I would probably want to leave the PA on the cart in the Florida sun at times when I camp at the beach. I see that the manual says:

"Do not leave your boat on the cart for more than one hour (less
time in warmer temperatures or direct sunlight)"

Would this cradle change that recommendation at all? If not, can I leave it on a dolly like the 80046201
PA/UnI for a longer period of time?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:44 pm 
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hobiefan42 wrote:
The Op was concerned about an Outback, I am trying to figure out my cart/dolly needs for a 2015 PA 12 I have ordered. The accessories catalog says this is for a TI, do you think it would fit or help with an Outback or a PA?

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The only reason I am so concerned about this is that I would probably want to leave the PA on the cart in the Florida sun at times when I camp at the beach. I see that the manual says:

"Do not leave your boat on the cart for more than one hour (less
time in warmer temperatures or direct sunlight)"

Would this cradle change that recommendation at all? If not, can I leave it on a dolly like the 80046201
PA/UnI for a longer period of time?

thanks,


I have such cradle for my PA12. It fits better without the collar bushings.

Without collar bushings:
https://flic.kr/p/oswPW5

With collar bushings:
https://flic.kr/p/oumE2G

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