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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:53 am 
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Eliseo wrote:
Hi Ioooe,

I Already found a solution to increase size of rudder and also added a daggerboard. Both already tested with really good results. Easy and quick removable while sailing. Here´s the link with some pics:

http://kite-kayaking-de-los-buenos.blogspot.com/


Good job. Is that an outback rudder? Looks different from my '05 outback.
Is the plastic rudder sturdy enough to handle the extra area?


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Iooie,

Thanks 4 the pics. I´ll try to finish my amas this weekend. Very smart, using the rodholders to hold the amas, i was thinking about it buy didn´t know how untill now. Thanks again and hope you found helpful my "sock model" rudder...

Eliseo


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Hi again Iooie,

It is a twist and stow model rudder, from the Outfitter. It works so good and strongly increased the sailing performance. Rudder plastic allowes it, no problems.


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Eliseo wrote:
Hi again Iooie,

It is a twist and stow model rudder, from the Outfitter. It works so good and strongly increased the sailing performance. Rudder plastic allowes it, no problems.

Wonder if it will fit on an Outback, or is that what you are using it on?


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My kayak is the Oufitter model from Hobie, I don´t know how is the rudder of the Outback, but sure you can apply the "sock model" idea to it.

If it works on the Outfitter it should work in the Outback.


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norman ernsting wrote:
Hey Toscho!

Sorry to hear about your problems mounting the Hobie outriggers. The well nuts as you learned are not dependable. Another alternative is to get access to the interior of the hull and use through bolts with a backing metal plate. I did this on a friend's Outback by installing a 4" deck plate nearest the area where I wanted to mount hardware for a leeboard that I made for him. The discription and pix can be found on this blog subject listing: "Here's a leeboard for the Outback". This just might be the strongest way to mount your new outriggers. Good luck!

Norman Ernsting aka Punchinello


Umm, hangon a sec he was mounting "Spring Creek Outfitters stabilizers", that doesnt sound like "Hobie Outriggers" to me.

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These toggler anchor's or "zip-toggles" as they are sometimes called, may help do the trick


Yep, Kep, that is what I was referring to earlier as a possible solution. My problem is finding these (or a similar type) in stainless. Do you know if these kinds of mounting hardware are available in SS? I would guess that someone makes them, but so far no luck on my end in finding them.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:47 am 
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The well nuts as you learned are not dependable.


The well nuts are pretty solid when properly installed. You have to be sure to drill the hole accurately and when tightening the nut... make them VERY tight to expand the rubber inside the hull.

A loose fitting hole or a screw that is not tight can be a problem.

The nuts have to be a very tight fit when inserted into the hole. Then when tightened and the rubber expands... they just can't pull through.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:33 pm 
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:lol: Kepnutz


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Hey there Latch-Patch :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:09 am 
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While I don't paddle a Hobie I do paddle and sail my kayak...on that note, I'd like to share my rig with you all...The sail, and the outriggers are my design, based on bits and pieces of other folks ideas, a few of my own, commercial sail rigs, etc....photo and links below:

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link to more:

http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/559053822fBwOeD


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I also have had the well nuts pull out on a revolution. On this kayak the solution was pretty simply. I drilled and taped a peice of .75" wide piece of aluminum to take the mounting screws of the bracket. I used a peice of aluminum long enough so I could hold it in place while reaching through the existing back inspection port. I sealed the large holes drilled to accept the well nuts with a combination on a nylon washer and 3m 5200.


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Hi Ioieeeee

After watching your pic and some others I developed my own new sail and stabiliser system that is working quite fine till now. I leave here the video o the test done last month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feRekrABqPk

Thanks for your comments and info.

Best,

Eliseo


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Hey SuperTroll,
Welcome to the Hobie site and congrats on your sailing rig. Couple of questions: what make of yak is that , and can you sail upwind with that type of sail? All the others of that design that I have seen seem to be strictly downwind rigs.
Best,
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