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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:12 pm 
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I've recently bought a 20 in pieces, got it all together but I'm buggered if I can sort the rotator out. I've read the assembly instructions but it's all a bit vague. Anybody clue me in or a diagram that shows a bit better than the manual?
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Do you have the latest version?

http://www.hobiecat.com/support/pdfs/H20Manual.pdf

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Define 'buggered'.


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It has been a while so I will try to remember all of it.

First of all I never used a positive rotator. That is usually a bungee system that pulls the mast to a rotated position.

I mounted two small cleats sideways on the shroud chainplates. The line went from the cleat, through a grommet on the trampoline, under trampoline to middle grommet. Up to rotator bar that had a block attached. Down through same middle grommet to opposite side of trampoline. Then the same as on the other side. Up through side grommet to block on shroud.

Hope this helps,
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Dan DeLave wrote:
First of all I never used a positive rotator. That is usually a bungee system that pulls the mast to a rotated position.


OK Dan, why not? Average wind conditions, water, crew weight?

Chris, I'm guessing buggered was that deer in the headlights look I had on my face on my first "rig" of the 20.

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I guess I thought buggering was something else entirely.


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John Eaton wrote:
OK Dan, why not? Average wind conditions, water, crew weight?
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John:

I am a huge proponent of keep it all as simple as possible. There were other teams that did use the positive rotator system. If they were significantly faster using them I would have capitulated, but there was no consistancy in that happening so I did not install it.

We sailed in all kinds of wind conditions but I have to admit that the 5 mph rule for regattas was pretty well observed. We rarely saw less than 5 while racing and I think that might be the key to the positive rotation. Above 5 the mast will cooperate. The couple of occassions that I would like the mast rotated I pushed it with my foot. Not enough use to rig it though.

We were sailing at minumum weight 295 at the time. We sail Formula 18s now as we are quite a bit heavier.

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xanderwess wrote:
Define 'buggered'.


Sorry mate, I'm Australian, residing in Indonesia. There's no Hobie shop down the road in the swamps of Borneo!

Buggered if I know means I don't have a clue!.

Thanks for the tips. I'm short 2 cleats and a turning block by the look of things.


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John Eaton wrote:


I think its a '97 boat. Shipped from Australia in 2000 and sat, in pieces, under a guys house till I bought it a couple of months back.


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An illustration of what Dan described is in the "link" I posted, in Figure 10.

Have fun with the new boat!

Dan,

Why no positive rotation???

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Already had a stack of fun with the boat! Just getting down to the fiddly bits now.

The missus and I weigh 'bout 250lb all up, we're probably a bit light but the breeze is generally soft here. There's a club of sorts run by a French oil company that have a couple of lasers, maybe half a dozen 16's and a brand spanking new Tiger.

I'm picking up a Tornado kite after the Australian nationals in July, what's the clues for fitting the prod etc to the 20?

How's the 20 go against the Tiger? Haven't had them both in the water at once to size them up yet?


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