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 Post subject: Internal spin halyard?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:41 pm 
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Has anyone made ran the spinnaker halyard in the mast? Are the HCE boats open all the way through? I wouldn't think it would take too much. The hardest part would be coming out the base and dealing with it in all the downhaul mess. The bottom block would have to be on a swivel as well so you wouldn't have to deal with the mast being rotated away from you.

Or would this not even be class legal for the Tiger/F18? I'm wondering for an FXone.


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would this not even be class legal for the Tiger/F18? I'm wondering for an FXone.


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13.2 No internal devices are allowed except as supplied.


That's part of the General Rules - it applies to all Hobies.

Not to mention that you compromise the water tight integrity of the mast.


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just thought I'd ask.

I wonder how they deal with watertight issues with the boats that do have it internally.


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Karl Brogger wrote:
just thought I'd ask.

I wonder how they deal with watertight issues with the boats that do have it internally.

Call me stupid, which boats are those?

I only knew of internal downhaul :?

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Not the downhaul the spin halyard.


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The INter 20 appears to be internal but it actually runs down the sail track and out at the bottom.

Lots of bigger boats have internal halyards for everything. I know the Farrier 28 tri I race on has internal everything. It is nice, but confusing looking at the base of the mast, and i would hate to have a halyard break and have to rethread it.

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My main halyard runs back down through the sail track.


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That's my point. Internal main halyards seem commonplace on newer designs. Internal downhaul is less common. Internal spin halyard...on a beach cat? I don't think there are currently any Beach cats with internal spin halyard.

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You would have to drill a hole in the mast to run the line out to the pole and make it so it wouldn't just saw away at it...

Anyone running internal stuff through your poles?

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Some of the Marstrom boats have an internal spin halyard. I was just thinking less windage, I'd be less likely to forget to rig the spin halyard before putting the stick up (novel idea), and it would be one less line to get caught on the spreader bars.

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A through Deck Block. That's all you would need at the top. The one pictured is a might big with a 2.25 sheave. The base of the mast would be a might trickier dealing with the downhaul with another cleat on a swivel in the way. Probably have to machine some of the mast track out of the way to mount the swivel and cleat.

It's winter, I'm bored and just kicking around ideas. It wouldn't be legal so its a moot point.


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Karl Brogger wrote:
and it would be one less line to get caught on the spreader bars.


OK. Our Vector (uni-maran) had a small s/s eye bolt (I think threaded into the mast) for the gennaker halyard. It was mounted right at the spreaders.

Douse and sets solo...whew, yeah anything to make that foolproof :shock:

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Douse and sets solo...whew, yeah anything to make that foolproof :shock:


You just pretend someone else is actually driving and its not that bad. :lol: Seriously steering with your calves is easier than it sounds.

Makes me think that I need to figure out how to do it standing up. Pulling the chute up kneeling is kinda a pain.

Oh the things to try when the water ceases to be solid.


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I've got an internal 2:1 tack line on my N20, and will soon be adding a jib luff tensioner that will run inside the spin pole as well.

There is no need in running your spin halyard internal to the mast. There would be no benefit, and would only lead to a big headache when threading, etc. Not to mention the chaffing that wil occur on the rivet ends inside the mast.

You guys up north need to get out of the cold and head south for Tradewinds in Key Largo (MLK weekend). That cold air must be getting to you...

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