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 Post subject: 14 Nationals in NY
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:01 am 
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How critical is having a comp tip at this event? There a few boats wanting to come and don't have them. Do they HAVE to get them to compete or can they get a pass on it?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:11 am 
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14's are required to have a CompTip at the North American's. It's in the class rules. Has been for 15 years.

Hobie Cat has plenty of them in stock. My dealer had one for me within a week. It only took two evenings to install it.


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 Post subject: Comp tip
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:22 am 
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Yea, thats what I thought, but I had to ask.


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 Post subject: Re: Comp tip
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:57 pm 
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So xanderwess, does that mean you and those others you mentioned, won't be attending?


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 Post subject: NY
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:50 pm 
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No, thats not necessaily the case. We have 6 guys with 14s interested in going. I have a comp tip, and 2 others are getting them. The other 3 may or may not go based on finances and adding an expensive part to a 25 year old boat may be the deal killer for a few of them. Hard to tell, but I wanted to pose the question.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:48 pm 
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Hobie Cat recommends that dealers sell the CompTip for cost plus freight (they can be shipped UPS).

When I ordered my CompTip, I asked Matt Miller to verify the dealer cost. On a 14 it's $245.12. Not cheap, but not overly expensive. The retrofit kit includes the foam plug / aluminum plate used to seal the aluminum mast, new tang rivets / anti-corrosion strips and a new halyard.

That's only a little more than a new rudder. Less than half the cost of a new sail.

BTW, mine went on a 28 year old boat that I bought for $600 (including the trailer) just a week ago.


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 Post subject: Comp tip
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:40 am 
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Rules are rules, and thats not a problem. Just asking ahead of time so some of these guys don't drive 1200 miles and get turned away.

Oh yea, one of the boats has an Earl Dame tramp on it. I suppose that has to go too, right?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:49 am 
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Technically, yes.

Personally, I would not protest a boat for not having a Hobie Cat brand trampoline, since no matter what you put on between the sidebars, it's not going to change the performance of the boat significantly. That doesn't mean somebody else wouldn't pull a red flag.

However, the boat would be subject to protest. I wouldn't want to drive that distance and have somebody toss me out on an equipment violation.

I have the Hobie tramp that came with my boat that I'd be willing to loan (give?) to the person with the Earl Dame tramp to encourage them to come to the event. It's certainly not new, but there aren't any holes in it and it seems fairly solid (I'm replacing it with a new Hobie mesh tramp).


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 Post subject: Hobie Tramp
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:30 am 
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A very generous offer. I assume nobody will protest a boat that comes in last every race will they???


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 Post subject: Where and when please?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:24 pm 
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I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier but I can't find a calendar event for the 14 races or location. If it is here in NY, I might like to show up and see what's happening.

Thanks much !


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:44 pm 
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xanderwess: I'm certainly not going to waste my valuable party time sitting in a hearing that will accomplish nothing other than to spoil somebody else's good time. :wink:

widerisbetter: This link has all the info: http://www.hobienac.com/

The Hobie 14 / Hobie 16 Women's / Hobie 16 Youth North Americans start on Friday, September 10 and go to the 12th. The Hobie 16 Open North Americans start on Monday the 13th and run through Friday the 17th.

All the racing is held on Oneida Lake from Oneida Shores Park in Brewerton, NY (just north of Syracuse).


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 Post subject: Party time
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:57 pm 
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I see you have the midwestern party/sailing attitude! I like it! I was at a regatta with some fellows from Wisconsin, who had one of those blenders hooked up to a chainsaw motor. I don't think they spent much time in protest meetings either, but one of them did say he had been chuming the sharks on the first race of the morning after!

I am pretty sure we'll be able to find a class legal tramp, comp tips are in motion and hopefully, we'll be bringing 4-6 boats from Iowa/S. Dakota. We also have 2 open 16 teams going and 2 youth 16 teams (my son and daughter being one set) going, so we're all pumped up for the long hitch on Interstate 90.
See you there.
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 Post subject: Thanks xanderwess!!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:45 am 
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I am so there!!! :) Just for a short while, but I'd hate to miss this since it is so close to home. 8) Oneida Shores is really nice by the way, and if none of you have ever sailed Oneida, it is beautiful and offers usually good steady westerly breezes.

Look for me, I'm a short fat old guy probably wearing an old Fleet 86 T and a Clayton Wooden Boat Museum maroon baseball cap- my favorite sailing outfit :roll: :lol:


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 Post subject: Oh by the way
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:47 am 
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HAVE FUN! Don't waste your party time in the protest room as xanderwess said. Play hard, play fair, nobody hurt :wink: Good luck to all.


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 Post subject: widerisbetter
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:41 am 
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Look for me too, I am the tall bald guy with Fleet 10 shirt.
Why can you only stay


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