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 Post subject: Hobie 16 jib sheet
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:59 am 
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OK racers...

what's the prefered brand and diameter of jib sheet and why?

and shame on me for only caring about the back of the boat until now :oops:

BTW, what comes on the new boats?

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 Post subject: Lines ...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:30 am 
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I use a Maffioli "clone" like Yale/Conception, a Dynema/Polypropylene Blend ... does not "hold" water, very soft, light and approximently 1/2 the price of Maffioli/Swiftcord. It runs "large" so I have 1/4" for the jibsheet and 5/16 for the Mainsheet on my H18 and P19MX. I may even go one size smaller yet on both sheetlines. Really nice stuff ....

New England(?) Salsa is nice line also, one of my friends uses that on his boat and loves it .....

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie 16 jib sheet
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:53 pm 
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J_Eaton wrote:
OK racers...


no offense Harry

Any 16 racers have an opinion?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:16 pm 
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I don't know what comes on the new boats - mine's purple and it works fine. It's sknny, too. Gets caught between the mast base and the step.

Can you tell I spend a lot of time at the back of the boat? :lol:

I had 5/16 Swiftcord on the old boat. Great hand feel, but it's almost too light and floppy. Tended to wrap around itself. Before that, I had Marstron. It's cheap, but it wears out quick.

Rich McVeigh is the rope junkie. I think he's tried every brand / style out there.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:00 pm 
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Come on Matt, a techy like you must know much more.
I know from looking at a picture that my jib sheet is blue and the main is red.
Maybe I'd be faster with a better color combo. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:10 pm 
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Paul Hess had two different colored sheets,one for the port side and one for starboard.Not sure how he rigged it.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:01 pm 
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When I first got my boat the jib was rigged that way, with two colors for each side of the boat. It was set up similar to the main, where one end controled the saild and the other controlled the traveler. I didn't really like it. I now have one sheet to control the jib, and two sheets to control the main that are tied of to the shrouds. I think I actually have some pics of the old set-up if anyone is interested.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:37 am 
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What's on mine now is 1/4", something, red with blue tracer.

The consensus complaint seems to be it's too stiff.

I love Salsa on the back end but afraid of buying something too floppy (nice choice of words Matt) for the front.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:57 pm 
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I'd like to see some pics, Abbman. I never read the book.....always wait for the movie. Not sure if I understand your description......and I'm always interested in concepts I might be unfamiliar with. So, by all means, the photos please. :idea:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:58 pm 
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John,

I soak my lines in a bucket of Arm and Hammer"Baking Soda" .... I'll add alittle "Woollite" and "OxiClean" also .... change the water often. Some off my friends wash their lines in the family cloths washer to clean and soften their lines .... BUT I do not recommend you doing this when the "lady" of the house is around .... the word "conniption" comes to mind.

.... you know if it's stiff for greater then four hours .... please go see your Doctor as it maybe a ...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:57 pm 
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Finally! Factory specs for the Hobie 16.

This has been changing, so had to get the latest from Steve in Australia. In recent years we have worked to keep production in both facilities the same, so Hobie Cat Australasia supplies the US with line kits for the Hobie 16.

Line Mfg: Liros (Germany)
Website: Liros.com (Choose from Menu: Yachting/Watersports/Dinghy)


Main and Jib Sheets: LIROS MAGIC SHEET
LIROS Magic Sheet has been specially developed for extreme and sport dinghies or catamarans, as main or jib. It is the first sheet which is able to combine paradoxical characteristics.

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- Extremely compact; A special construction enables extreme holding in stoppers and pulley winch.
- Extremely flexible; Magic Sheet remains very flexible in pulley-block and enables quickest operate.
- Perfect Grip; The perfect and strong grip without slipping enables the best control in all situations.

Cover
- Polyester Grip fibre and HT Polyester

Core
- HT Polypropylene

Jib Halyard: LIROS- D-PRO
Extreme line for extreme applications on deck. Especially developed for transmission of highest loads on dinghies and cats. All-purpose line, lowest weight and minimal stretching through LIROS-HEAT-STRETCH-SYSTEM. High abrasion resistance and no water absorption because of special LIROS coating.

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- Working stretch < 1%
- higher breaking strenght than wire at the same diameter
- very low stretch
- no water absorption
- with cover from LIROS-Protect also applicable in cleats
- very easy to splice
- also available as Magic-V-Pro in Vectran
- LIROS-HEAT-STRETCH-SYSTEM

Material
- 100% Dyneema


Tramp lace / Trap adjust: MAGIC GOLD
Very abrasion resistant cover in cleats, core of pure DYNEEMA to reach lowest stretch. Usable as spinaker sheet, trapeze line, halyard or controlling line.

Info
- Working stretch < 3%
- very resistant against abrasion
- very low stretch
- LIROS-HEAT-STRETCH-SYSTEM

Cover
- Polyester

Core
- DYNEEMA braided


Jib Car Adjustment: LIROS – Dynamic
High Performance and abrasion resistant rope with low stretch,Polyester outer and 100% DYNEEMA in the core. For use as high quality sheet and low stretch halyard for the cruising yacht sailor.

Info
- Working stretch < 3 %
- low stretch and abrasion resistant



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Main Sheet: Magic Sheet 9 mm / 11 mtr
Jib Sheet: Magic Sheet 7 mm / 10 mtr
Jib Halyard: D-Pro 5 mm / 21 mtr
Tramp Center: Magic Gold 4 mm / 6 mtr
Tramp Aft (2): Magic Gold 4 mm / 4.5 mtr
Jib Adjust (2): Dynamic 5 mm / 4 mtr
Trapeze Adjust (4): Magic Gold 4 mm / 1.1 mtr

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:26 pm 
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Here are those pics, but as I look at them they aren't as I origially described:

http://www.thebeachcats.com/index.php?m ... emId=22695

http://www.thebeachcats.com/index.php?m ... emId=22704

http://www.thebeachcats.com/index.php?m ... emId=22707

I was mistaken. There are two lines for each side of the boat, typical to the current set up I think. The difference in the way I currently have it set up is that I tie the traveler sheet to the shroud. My bad, I remembered it differently.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:45 am 
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mmiller wrote:
Finally! Factory specs for the Hobie 16.

Matt, thanks again :D
John

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 Post subject: Jib lines
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:42 pm 
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I've tried so many different lines in the past but i realy like the climing rope in blue ridge mountain sports, its cheaper and runs through the blocks really smooth, all different sizes available too. just my peronal preference plus i'm a cheapskate


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