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Author:  mmiller [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Now available... Aka Trampolines for the Hobie Mirage Adventure Island.

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Aka Trampolines do many things...

- Added space for carrying gear
- Allows you to move weight outboard for better performance in windy conditions
- Comfortable sitting or laying down position
- Carry additional crew / kids / pets (does not increase basic weight capacity)
- Reduce spray in cockpit

The trampolines are made from mesh vinyl as used on our catamaran product. Available in Grey and Black. Easy installation. Fast (side-release) buckles across aft aka make folding akas quick. Adjustable webbing straps for a tight fit. Rolls down and straps to forward aka for storage or easily slips off the aka. Paddle storage, gear pockets and lanyard grommets included.

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Easy installation with fast snap buckles and adjustable straps

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Tight fit / Adjustable strap system / Paddle storage

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Rolled onto aka and strapped in place

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Boat folded with aka tramps in place

Available Now! $319.95

79527001 TRAMP SET AI - BLACK
79527011 TRAMP SET AI - GREY

Author:  KayakingBob [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Matt,

How much weight are these designed to handle?

Thanks,

Kayaking Bob

Author:  mmiller [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

We put an official 200 lb capacity on these. You can stand on the thing on hard ground, but can pop a buckle loose if you were to stomp on one directly. 200 lbs for safety.

Author:  stringy [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Wow-impressive! 8)
I didn't think it was possible to increase the versatility of an already extremely versatile boat but Hobie have with this option! When will they be available downunder?

Author:  Tom Ray [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Looks like a good upgrade. Now I can carry more than one dog! ;)

Author:  chrisj [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

They could complement Bob's sprayshields really well. I've got used to not getting splashed by waves coming over the bow, so now I get resentful when I cop one side on.
PS: Can you buy just one if you only have one dog?

Author:  Yakaholic [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Wowser! Matt Those look great :D

Q. When you get a set of trampolines are they identical or is each tramp desiged for a specific side? In other words is there a port tramp and a starbord tramp?

Also, if one had a rare aka brace failure wouldn't an installed tramp help keep the ama properly or partially deployed? Seems like it might. Which adds safety.

I just recently got into removing the mirage drive while sailing, expecially in open areas. The Tramp may make a perfect place to lay the leashed drive when not in the drive well.

Now I wonder which color would be best. Black would look the best but I suspect the gray would not be so hot in the summertime.

Which color are Island owners here getting?

Looks like a nice add-on! I kept planning to make one but now I don't need to. Thanks Hobie!

Author:  mickeymouse [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:49 pm ]
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Very cool 8)

Author:  Roadrunner [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

I just saw some kid zipping along on a pair of those -- said he was steering with his feet!

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Very nice looking set-up! 8)

Author:  Yakaholic [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

They do look cool. 8)

Brings up another question in addition to the one above about left & right sides.
Just how much stress will our carbon/fiberglass masts take?

In stiff wind I have always had more fear about my mast breaking than I was about tipping over. Now if one hikes out onto a tramp you have obviously reduced heeling and the mast and sail are literally forced up into wind. One normally reefs when tha lee ama becomes buried, with the tramp you could minimize the "buried ama" and increase your speed - but is that asking the mast to do too much?

Or, asked a diffent way. Would an Island always tip/capsize/heel over before a mast breaking event occured, and how much does hiking out change this balance? Does Hobie consider hiking out on the tramp an approved use of the Island?

I know our AI owners in Hawaii routinely venture out in 25+knt winds and I have read of no mast breaking. Is our mast really close to unbreakable and my concerns unfounded?

I'd like to push the boats limits but seek info from engineers and experienced users.

One minor detriment of the tramps may be if you are in and out of the boat frequently - the tramps are in the way. My normal boat entry consists of climbing over the extended aft starboard aka arm and easily sitting in the boat with the hull beside me.

Is it easy to put a tramp on or off while on the water?
(assuming of course it is already rolled around the front aka)

Hobie has added a whole new dimension to the Island with these tramps. I love the fact that they continue to improve and accesorize an already fantastic boat. Rock on. :)

Author:  mmiller [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Multiple questions:

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Q. When you get a set of trampolines are they identical or is each tramp desiged for a specific side? In other words is there a port tramp and a starbord tramp?

Yes, they only come in a pair and are port / starboard specific.


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Also, if one had a rare aka brace failure wouldn't an installed tramp help keep the ama properly or partially deployed? Seems like it might. Which adds safety.

Yes... they would tend to keep the amas deployed even without the brace connected.


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Just how much stress will our carbon/fiberglass masts take?

Can't tell you what the breaking load might be. Never failed one. They are very strong.


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Would an Island always tip/capsize/heel over before a mast breaking event occured, and how much does hiking out change this balance? Does Hobie consider hiking out on the tramp an approved use of the Island?

Limitation is still the ama volume. Hiking would add more stress, but has not shown to be an issue. I would say... hiking is factory approved.

Author:  Upyaboya [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Great news indeed.....can't wait to get a set. I don't have to worry about the black one's heating up, doesn't get that warm over here!

Does this now mean that the other half might get to experience the thrill of the A1?

Now that I can also bring the dog, I won't have to worry about those darn seals.

Yet again, well done Hobie ....thanks for listening.

Upyaboya

Author:  chrisj [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Upyaboya wrote:
Great news indeed.....can't wait to get a set. I don't have to worry about the black one's heating up, doesn't get that warm over here!

Does this now mean that the other half might get to experience the thrill of the A1?

Now that I can also bring the dog, I won't have to worry about those darn seals.

Yet again, well done Hobie ....thanks for listening.

Upyaboya

Would a seal be deterred by a dog? What have you got - an Irish wolfhound?

Author:  Bob L. [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Matt

I like the trampoline idea, how soon before Hobie offers the tillar extension so we can hike out on them?

Thanks

Bob L.

Author:  mmiller [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Now available... Aka Trampolines!

Thinking about extensions still.

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