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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:53 pm 
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Twerto wrote:
am I right in thinking that would be worst case scenario you have shown? as with a TI the point load weight would be spread more?
There is always a worse case scenario -- With the TI weight, you might want to avoid rocky surfaces like this if possible:
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On the other hand, the wheels supporting the weighted boat (see previous post above) were aired at only 2.5 psi. -- they can hold up to 4 psi. It would be a good idea to have a low pressure air gauge though with the Trax wheels to avoid the possibility of overinflation -- would be ideal if Hobie included one with the carts or wheel upgrades, since low pressure gauges are not common.

I'm not sure what you were asking in your second question. In the forward scupper position the cart takes virtually all the weight of the boat -- you can lift the boat with two fingers!
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That also means there isn't much load sharing. Hope that answers it. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:39 am 
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Thanks for all thegood info. The HD wheels look like the way to go with a TI and hoping my dealer carries them. But, I'm wondering if the additional weight from a fully loaded TI would stress the scupper holes to the point of cracking. And if it would be best to install the cart in the forward scuppers to help distribute weight more equally.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:22 am 
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Cowsgomoo wrote:
Looks good. I've got the HD wheels on my cart. Found they turn better with a bit of grease on the bush. Seems to take the load off pulling the AI.

Did you find stainless R clips? The boating place I went to only had zinc coated ones (I think) and my hardware store ones I got without thinking are rusting. I've slowed the rust down with a good squirt of Lanox though.


CGM,
The grease is a good idea.
I wore out the aluminium bush and now use nylon/stainless bearings I have added to the hubs. I do a lot of km's!
I had trouble sourcing a stainless R clip. I eventually ordered some from the UK off eBay. They are 2mm dia and 43mm long.

I've since found that Whitworths stock a similar clip.
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Hobie also have a clip that fits. I'll try and find the part number.


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:02 am 
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stringy wrote:
Cowsgomoo wrote:
CGM,
The grease is a good idea.
I wore out the aluminium bush and now use nylon/stainless bearings I have added to the hubs. I do a lot of km's!
I had trouble sourcing a stainless R clip. I eventually ordered some from the UK off eBay. They are 2mm dia and 43mm long.

I've since found that Whitworths stock a similar clip.

Hobie also have a clip that fits. I'll try and find the part number.


Thanks for that. I'll give them a go.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Cowsgomoo wrote:
Looks good. I've got the HD wheels on my cart. Found they turn better with a bit of grease on the bush. Seems to take the load off pulling the AI.

Did you find stainless R clips? The boating place I went to only had zinc coated ones (I think) and my hardware store ones I got without thinking are rusting. I've slowed the rust down with a good squirt of Lanox though.


CGM,
The Hobie part No is 020502-Hairpin Cotter 3/8" 302 SS
Here's how worn the bush had become on my cart after a year of use
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I didn't use grease- just the odd spray of Lanox.
The end play in the wheel became too much so I replaced the bush with a nylon stainless bearing drilled into the hub:
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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:04 am 
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stringy wrote:
Cowsgomoo wrote:
Looks good. I've got the HD wheels on my cart. Found they turn better with a bit of grease on the bush. Seems to take the load off pulling the AI.

Did you find stainless R clips? The boating place I went to only had zinc coated ones (I think) and my hardware store ones I got without thinking are rusting. I've slowed the rust down with a good squirt of Lanox though.


CGM,
The Hobie part No is 020502-Hairpin Cotter 3/8" 302 SS
Here's how worn the bush had become on my cart after a year of use

I didn't use grease- just the odd spray of Lanox.
The end play in the wheel became too much so I replaced the bush with a nylon stainless bearing drilled into the hub:
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Now you're talking! Might be a good mod, thanks for posting.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:30 am 
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Stringy;
I would like to trip with my AI and am trying to figure out how.
Hobie tells me:
" We would not recommend a "portage" of any real length on any plug in cart. Plug in carts are for short distance transportation typically from car to waters edge."
You are putting kilometres on your cart and wearing out bushings with an AI. Can you contact me for some offline discussions further as I don't believe the forum is the venue for it. Image


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:55 am 
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Well 2 minutes with the Sawzall and I cut 1 1/2" off one leg of the newest Hobie scupper cart so now it fits in the TI's front hatch. Still works well with the holder pin on the TI.
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Also notice, I replaced the Hobie pins that came with the cart with Lynch Pins. Even though they aren't stainless, the first set lasted me over 2 years of being dunked in salt water and won't fall off.

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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:10 pm 
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kmac,
I've emailed you.

Good idea Bob. 8)
I wonder if the shorter post might make submerged insertion easier, as in standing next to it in knee deep water?
The Trax cart has longer axles but should fit I guess?


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 Post subject: Re: Hobie cart selection
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:07 am 
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Reconlon,

Great idea especially since I rely on having my HD cart to help beach my TI. Looks like a tube cutter will also work. Will give it a try this weekend.

c2y


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