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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:46 am 
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"L" angled aluminium extrusion bolted underneath would be far more effective than increasing thickness.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:41 pm 
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Hi Stringy
Very impressed with the Hobie Hilton.
I have never really explored Cowan creek, launching on the Sydney side is a great idea avoids any hassles crossing Broken Bay.
Let us know next time you are going should be able to find somewhere to put up the tent.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:43 pm 
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Hey ya Croc. Long time no hear. Give us a yell if you're planning a trip up Cowan over the break. I wouldn't mind check'n out some of those spots Stringy stayed at myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:03 am 
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Thanks Croc. We'll have to organise a trip... and let Slaughter know! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:27 am 
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Thanks for the references to other topics. I've been looking at past posts of you Old Salts on camping and Haka building and now am much more familiar with Haka possibilities. Wood or bamboo looks better & better.

Took my new TI out in the Gulf today for the first time in 20kn winds, 4 ft breaking waves and while tacking, the lifted windward aka would pop almost out of the ama socket when the bow dropped hard into a wave trough. The bungie loop cords are too weak. Must replace them with 3/8" tight loops. Can't understand why Hobie has not fixed this problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:46 pm 
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stringy, how have you attached the two poles that the Bimini connects to, to the AKAs?


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:42 pm 
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Hi guys. Still looking at alternatives for sleeping onboard and have found another possibility.
"Kamp Rite Original Tent Cot With Rainfly". Try googleing it. Looks good, off the deck, cot , tent, screens, fly, cheap, but 20lbs & 32"x28"x6" folded, but fits folded on forward drive of a TI. Might work, easy to erect, end entry if you set up a post, come in from the stern, turns into a deck chair, (keep anchor & line astern), fits along the hull....... Looks good, low........
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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:22 am 
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"turns into a deck chair"

Any pics?

The main drawback seemed to be that you can´t sit in it. Which is why I am interested in pics of the deck chair function you wrote about.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:38 am 
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Sorry, still can't send photos but this link to the tent/cot shows all.

http://store.kamprite.com/catalog/Kamp- ... 16148.html


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:44 am 
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I am pretty interested in that tent, but I don´t need one now. I hope you soon can give us a report about how well it works on a Hobie Island! It wont necessarily stand very stable on the boat.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:44 pm 
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Will let you know. Must figure out how to post photos. It will look silly folded up across the boat just aft af the mast but sets up so fast without pipes or stays. Expect to order through Sears, $ 145.00


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:48 pm 
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It is not very practical to need a 2 person Island to carry a one person tent.
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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:00 pm 
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The negatives with a Tent Cot are:
-it is bulky when packed up.
-it is heavy.
-it has a steel frame and will rust if used in a marine environment.
:oops: Edit( Oops ignore the above I just checked the specs and saw it is aluminium. I'm sure the model I looked at was steel.)

I initially looked at one but realised it wouldn't be suitable for what I was doing.
I liked the concept though, which is why I ended up with the Teton Outfitter pop up tent (as seen in my previous pics). It is designed to be used on a stretcher (or 2 haka!) yet can also be used free standing. It goes up in an instant and is light, compact and won't rust.
I've been very happy with it. It is also wind resistant and has withstood 20+knots so far without problem. Strong winds can be a real issue when moored. In 10 nights of sleeping on board I think on about 7 of those the winds were strong enough to be of concern.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:23 pm 
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John_h wrote:
stringy, how have you attached the two poles that the Bimini connects to, to the AKAs?

John,
I'm on about V3 of the bimini mount and don't have any current on boat pics of the set up but it uses a 25mm bimini tube that spans the aka as seen here:
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To fit both AI and TI I have modified the connections to this which clips on the forward aka:
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and this for the rear aka plus a bungee loop for security:
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So I could get maximum adjustment fore/aft and up/down the bimini legs attach to this:
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With the wing nuts it is easy to adjust the position and height of the bimini anywhere along the tube.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:29 pm 
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Thanks Stringy,

While not for sleeping, my wife mentioned she would like some shade when she comes out with me on my Adventure Island, so I will be copying your setup. :D

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