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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:48 pm 
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I'll have to invest in one of those sand pole peggy things. I usually use the cooper anchor with 2m of chain and throw it way out, then run a nylon anchor line right through to a tree on shore, pull it tight and then teather the AI to that line which makes it easy to move if necessary. Up until now, there has always been a tree to attach to but just incase there isn't, this pole would be ideal.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:55 pm 
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I've always used a stakeout pole in shallow water and it has been totally reliable. I also like to think it would come in handy as a shark fenderer-off-er, should the need arise.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:18 pm 
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chrisj wrote:
I've always used a stakeout pole in shallow water and it has been totally reliable. I also like to think it would come in handy as a shark fenderer-off-er, should the need arise.


Now you are talking about how I really use my Dick's Stakeout Pole It brings me great comfort just knowing I can use it against some wayward Great White that comes into Tampa Bay. Seriously, I do like having it on my kayak as we do get some pesky sharks in my area. I also have a measuring tape on it. I just rarely use it for what it was intended for.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:13 am 
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stringy wrote:
We should get together with Russ and anyone else interested in an onboard overnighter sometime!


Not sure about that. Is your tent big enough? Might get a little cozy...
:oops: :oops: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:20 am 
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Not that there is anything wrong with that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:51 am 
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Do we have to draw straws to see who will be big spoon ? :lol:

Yep, any time. The Christmas break will soon be here. I'll have about 3 weeks off from the 20th Dec. I think we were planning a Port Stephens trip at some time over the break were't we ?

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:42 am 
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YES PLEASE!

(Just accompanied a new TI owner on his first real trip, circumnavigation of Wallis Island - another happy camper)

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:35 pm 
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tonystott wrote:
YES PLEASE!

(Just accompanied a new TI owner on his first real trip, circumnavigation of Wallis Island - another happy camper)

:lol: :lol:
You'll have to get yourself an onboard camping rig Tony (or were you saying YES PLEASE to going big spoon? :? ).

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:57 pm 
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Cowsgomoo wrote:
stringy wrote:
We should get together with Russ and anyone else interested in an onboard overnighter sometime!


Not sure about that. Is your tent big enough? Might get a little cozy...
:oops: :oops: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
OK, I should have added BYO onboard sleeping arrangement essential! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:05 pm 
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Chekika wrote:
That gps track was fine, but regarding your flat gps, don't you carry extra batteries or are you still working on you trip recharging system?
Keith

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I usually take spare batteries but as this was such a short trip distance wise I didn't bother.

Terry wrote:
Keith - What about THIS for a sand anchor? It isn't as long as the above, but it's looks like it might work.


Terry,
That umbrella base should work as well. I guess it would depend on where to attach the anchor line and how strong the plastic was? The Bluescrew pegs are engineered for anchoring.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Slaughter wrote:
I'll have to invest in one of those sand pole peggy things. I usually use the cooper anchor with 2m of chain and throw it way out, then run a nylon anchor line right through to a tree on shore, pull it tight and then teather the AI to that line which makes it easy to move if necessary. Up until now, there has always been a tree to attach to but just incase there isn't, this pole would be ideal.

Slaughter,
I ditched the 2m of chain (to save weight) after my first overnighter test at Waterfall Bay. There the sand was much firmer and I could see no difference in holding power with/without chain. In fact I experimented with both large and small Cooper anchors and found the holding power to be the same. I was disappointed that neither would hold in the soft sand at Stingray Bay and I regretted ditching the chain.
The stakeout pole worked well as did the Bluescrews ($14.95 from BCF)

FYI- the stakeout pole cost about $25 using 2m alloy tube from Biasboating:
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and this T-piece for a handle from Whitworths:
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As Terry and Chris mentioned the stakeout pole can have multiple uses. Mine doubles as a GoPro pole mount. I used it for the pics this trip. With 25mm bimini tube there are lots of fittings available. Using this tube connector from Biasboating you can add extensions/ interchange tips etc:
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I'm experimenting with adding a screw tip to the stakeout pole for use in firmer ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:25 pm 
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stringy wrote:
I thought it worth mentioning how I anchored this time. Previously the Cooper anchors had trouble holding in the very soft sand.
I also trialled these Bluescrew sand pegs:
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I was very impressed with them. So simple to screw into the soft sand, yet I couldn't pull them out when they were screwed all the way in. Amazing holding power and the kayak never budged, even in some strong wind gusts. A great lightweight anchor system for soft sand. 8)
If you can't find those, Auger-style tie-out stakes for big dawgs are available at your local pet stores and men's shopping emporiums (hardware stores). I just picked this up on sale for <$10, complete. Going to give it a try at the sandbar.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:33 pm 
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NOHUHU--I saw those stakes (sans extra stuff) at Home Depot today.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:05 pm 
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Chekika wrote:
I like those bluescrew sand pegs. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be available here in the states.

That gps track was fine, but regarding your flat gps, don't you carry extra batteries or are you still working on you trip recharging system?

Keith

Hey Keith I just checked out the BlueScews website and they do have International ordering for USA and other countries available using Paypal - I just ordered a couple of packets of the screws.
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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:04 am 
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chrisj wrote:
tonystott wrote:
YES PLEASE!

(Just accompanied a new TI owner on his first real trip, circumnavigation of Wallis Island - another happy camper)

:lol: :lol:
You'll have to get yourself an onboard camping rig Tony (or were you saying YES PLEASE to going big spoon? :? ).

Oi! I am talking about sailing at Port Stephens only :P :P Sleeping arrangements would be a different story :lol:

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