Madwand I would consider that boat as a well worn demo. Remember that boat has been poked at, sat on by Gawd knows how many adults, kids and the result is something I doubt most active users of a 'new boat' have issues with. Bungies are used to keep the amas connected with the help of gravity and should not be stretched unless someone decided to sit on them unsupported.
That boat's price is at suggested retail (at least the last time I checked locally) Yet it seems it needs work.
Look at it this way, that boat has sat there and helped the dealer possibly sell more boats so he has already gotten the write-off for promotional overhead.
If I were you, I'd take a friend who knows more about these boats than you do. Have him/her check the boat over carefully.
If it is minor no biggy. If it is major walk away and order a 2012 from the factory (add $250 to the price). Or consider offering the dealer 10-15% less than his asking price... Remember the new 2012 models have been released to the dealers. He may just go for it. Better yet, wait until the end of Labour Day. People's thoughts drift the other way when they have to buy clothing and school supplies for their kids. (The dealer also knows this and will put this puppy up on a discount if you wait long enough)
I know North Americans are really bad at bargaining. Please let's change that image. (Remember also, right now the Stock Market is sheit as is the Economy, you, with 5k have incredible bargaining power (it is called a buyer`s market, Advantage Mr. Madwand)
Btw: The warranty is with Hobie, not your dealer. It is up to the dealer to do repair, replacement as required. The dealer gets payed by Hobie to honor the Factory warranty on the vessel. It must be made effective from the date when you purchase the vessel)
DO NOT buy this boat AS IS!
If you ever bought an open box item from Best Buy (or other retailers) a 10% discount is considered standard. It saves them the cost and hassle of sending the item back to the supplier (usually in Asia). Yet full warranty is still in effect as you purchase this product. You are considering buying a damaged boat (by your descriptions). That should give you more bargaining power than simply an owner`s manual that has a torn page. Have you considered looking on the web for the same boat from another dealer close to you. Here`s another thought, a dealer would rather give you product than take a hit on the final selling price. If you are buying a TI you will want a trailer. So if he has a trailer in stock get him to sell to you at his cost (ask for the factory invoice). Compare the suggested retail to what he will give you the trailer for and do the math. Either way, you gain. It`s simply a matter of which deal is better for you.
Hoping you can get the best deal possible...if not walk away.
The Hobies aren`t going away. Consider this: If it is freezing cold and the wind is blowing at 30 knots with 2 feet of snow on the ground 2 weeks before Xmas, would you really be interested in buying a Hobie TI.
Yet that is exactly when you want to walk in with cash (remember credit card companies charge 2 to 3 % to the dealer) and start dealing to get that boat for possibly 20-30% below retail (on the remaining 2011 stock).
Merry Christmas, m8 Trinomite
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