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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:24 pm 
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Thanks for all of the replies. For the person who commented on it being heavy to drag up a beach... I am only 16 years old and will have my father there at all times to help me carry the boat down the dock. The only reason I was making an emphasis on speed is because I am going to be using it in very rough water where I was afraid that the waves will slow down the boat because of its tendency to nose dive. This is my dock set up. At the end there is a ramp and goes down to about 6" off the water which is where I plan to launch this boat (left of the h16 next to the jet ski). there is a shallow area where I can stand and attach the tramps... actually I can launch the boat bare and rig it in the water.
I cant figure out how to upload pictures.. but when I do I will show the launch area.


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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:40 pm 
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You have to upload photos through a 3rd party. I use photobucket, which I find user friendly, but there are many out there.

When you mentioned nose diving in rough water, that’s the best bit about an AI/TI. Hanging up high on a trampoline on a cat like a Bravo, is a different sort of fun than carving through waves at water level which is what the AI/TI does. They are both extremely safe and capsizing is very rare.

Best of luck with your decision and welcome to the forum.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:46 pm 
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Given your age youthful age and light weight, I would say the AI is the better choice. If you want to occassionally take out a similarly light weight person, you will have no trouble doing so on the AI. Either one of you can sit in the rear storage area - or on the windward tramp if you have them fitted.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:54 pm 
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I think either one will suit my needs. What is the base kayak for the TI I have the catalog and can't find any 2 person kayak that is 18' long. I just found this video and was wondering if this is safe to do, or will it damage the amas.
(start at the 5:00 mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCz_sAmIrzk


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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:03 pm 
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Not recommended. All your body weight is supported by the bungees and if the Aka came out of the Ama, especially the front one, god knows what damage it would cause. Looks like fun though.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:38 pm 
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What about hiking out not that far on the trapoline


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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:48 pm 
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basstender,

You see that tiny crosspiece connecting the rear Aka to the hull? That's all that is keeping these funlovers from collapsing their rig. After a few pints, it probably seemed like a good idea,.. but sitting high and bouncing right on this joint is not something I would advise.

If you want to hike way out, you can do it safely on the tramps. Or even better - on a set of Haka benches. You'll need a tiller extension and a safety leash to sail this way.

But I do it all the time. It's a blast.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:00 pm 
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Nohuhu - one of my mates has made a set of your benches and I was very interested in his AI performance when he was hiked out on them.
It was clearly much dryer and even though he couldn't use the mirage drive from that position, he was able to use full sail in strong winds and use his weight to keep the boat more level than those of us sailing from the conventional position.
Needless to say, he sailed faster in those conditions.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:22 pm 
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Very effective on the TI as well, where the rear sailor still has access to a drive. Pulling the front drive and hiking out gets you maximum results, once the sail fills.

Thanks for the feedback Mickey.

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 Post subject: Re: help selecting boat
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:39 pm 
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This boat sounds like a great deal of fun. Can some one inform me on the difference between the new one and the old version. I rember hearing that they changed something with the amas. I will be purchasing a used boat, which ever one I decide on either the Ti of Ai and was wondering if there is anything I need to upgrade if i buy an older one?


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