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Author:  mingle [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:24 am ]
Post subject:  Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Hi guys,

On my 2011 A.I. I find that the 'cut-out' section of the front inner corner of the tramps fits very poorly over the newer (V2?) AKA knuckle joints.

On the older style AKAS with the retaining pins, the fit is very well, but on the newer style AKAS I find that the cut-out section isn't the correct size and shape to clear the rather bulbous knuckles.

Is this something that others have noticed?

Or are there specific tramps for the newer AKAS?

Cheers,

Mike.
Author:  mmiller [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
May be a positioning issue. Pulled too far outboard / inboard?

There is only one pattern used for both aka versions.
Author:  NOHUHU [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Mike, we just put tramps on a TI for a sail and they were a tighter fit over the knuckles, but they did make it.

Maybe you could post a pict?

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Author:  mingle [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Here's a shot of the right side tramp fitted.

Front:
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Rear:
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It seems like the width of the 'hem' that sits between the top of the knuckle and the mainsheet cleat is too wide...

Is this what it's supposed to look like?

Cheers,

Mike.
Author:  NOHUHU [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Possibly. Looks odd.

Hard to tell from the shot, but to me it looks like the cleat is in the wrong position. Too far to Starboard.

And that the "Outhaul" for the tramp needs to be pulled tighter (toward the Ama).

Do the sleeves with the holes measure the same on both tramps? We could check the dimensions of ours and compare.
Author:  mingle [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Just chasing-up this thread after forgetting about it for a while!

I've measured the distance between the starboard AKA clamp and the mainsheet cleat (23mm)
and the AKA clamp to the knuckle-joint pin 'collar' (118mm). (see following pic):

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Does this sound correct?

Cheers,

Mike.
Author:  P14WD [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Mike,
I know you have an AI but for interest sake here are a couple of close up photos of my new TI tramps.
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Regards, Ian
Author:  mingle [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Hi Ian,

Thanks for that... looks like I need to shift the mainsheet cleat inboard a bit...

Cheers,

Mike.
Author:  NOHUHU [ Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Definitely.
Author:  mingle [ Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Thought so - I wonder how it can be so far out of alignment?

Can you tell me what the thread size is of the screws that hold the cleats in-place (I guess an SAE size)?

Cheers,

Mike.
Author:  NOHUHU [ Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
These are the Harken 471 carbo cams we use

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http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5348&taxid=390

Check the specs page - lists as 4 RH mm screws. 27mm separation.

They still may need trimming to proper length.

Cheers.
Author:  tonystott [ Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Poor fit of tramps over V2 AKA 'knuckles'?
Mingle, Binks should correct that for you, as I reckon that is a manufacturing fauly, and the cleat has been placed incorrectly.
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