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 Post subject: Leaking Forward Hatch
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:45 pm 
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I just received my new 2015 Hobie TI. I have taken it out two times in mild-to-moderate seas and it fills with water over 5 gallons of water in my kayak each time. More like ten gallons of water last week. The dealer came over to my house and we pewrformed a pressure test to diagnose the leak and the front hatch is the problem. Looks like a design problem to me. There is no seal as it leaves the factory. This is unacceptable and want to know who else is experienceing problems with the crtappt forward hatch design!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:05 pm 
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No problems with my front hatch. I've had the boat out in 15-20 mph with white caps with no water incursion. Heck, the waves were breaking over the bow! Today we were in a torrential downpour on the lake (I'm thinking 2-3" of rain) still nothing inside the boat.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:44 am 
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My 2015 TI isn't leaking at the forward hatch either. Sounds like something specific to your boat.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:24 am 
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Had my first wild ride last week in 15-20 knots and 1 metre waves on lake Huron. Lots of water over the bow, and buried the bow in many waves while surfing. Had maybe a litre of water in the hull at the end of the day.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:53 am 
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greshamri, Kal-P-Dal had serious leakage thru the front hatch. It seemed to be a bad front hatch seal. You can see his solution here http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=50166&p=255572#p255572

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:14 am 
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Why should we have to repair the forward hatch. Hobie made the leaking thing. Looks like some do not leak. Come Hobie! What are you going to do!


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:40 am 
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I don't think they are going to do anything until you put in a warranty claim via your dealer.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:37 pm 
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http://youtu.be/2MP9wGZsAjY

Watch the video of the test. Shows lots of air escaping the front hatch.


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:45 pm 
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http://youtu.be/cleH8eGMwa4

Here is a video of the water in the Hull


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:49 pm 
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Sorry, but the air test cannot indicate leaks in the front hatch. All excess air will always escape from the front hatch no mater how good the front hatch seal is.

With the inside of the hull dry, place in a few dry paper towels. Make sure the seal area is clean and close and bungee the hatch. It will work best if the hull is level on a rack or the ground. Wet the area with a hose (not too strong) or slowly with buckets of water. Try to keep the water to only the area you are testing. After drying off the outside, open up the hull and see if the paper is wet. If it is wet, you may be able to locate the area by where the paper is wet.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:54 pm 
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TI Tom and Buckeroo, Glad you are not leaking. I've been out 2x in easy seas and 5 gallons 1st trip, out for 5 hours and 10 gallons 2nd trip 8 hrs. Look at videos I posted.

KayakingBob, If there was a seal on the front hatch like the other hatches, I could see the hatch rise until it leaked, but there is no rise just air blowing out. If it blows out so easily, water can get in easier. We tried your test too last week and there was no leak but Sorry I Don't buy it. We have really ruled out everything else. If there was a crack or hole in the hull we would have seen it when we added water to the hull. This amount of water is a serious leak. RG


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:56 pm 
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greshamrl wrote:
http://youtu.be/cleH8eGMwa4

Here is a video of the water in the Hull

Yep, you do seem to have a leak. :roll:

Unless you were spending a lot of time with waves covering your bow, it probably isn't your front hatch. With that much water, my guess is something below the water line. With the hull on a strong rack or trailer, try adding 3-4 gallons of water and watch for it leaking out.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:04 am 
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greshamrl wrote:
There is no seal as it leaves the factory.


Not sure what you mean by this. I have seen your video and there is definitely a sealing (black rubber) on the hatch cover and probably also a sealing on the hull. But if these 2 sealing should work and do their job at the same time, there must be a perfect match between hull and hatch cover. IMHO this is not possible to achive with a rotomoulded hull.

So for everyone that says that their front hatch don't leak, that means (for me!) that 1 of the sealings is doing a good job.

First you must determine where the leak is. Probably the front hatch, but probably is not enough.
Step two is to make a warranty claim via your dealer.
Because to correct this fault, if it is same I had, you have to make actions to both the hatch cover and the hull.
That will most certain void the warranty if you don't have some agrement with your dealer and/or Hobie.

/forums/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=50166&p=255572#p255572

and there is also a link to an other thread...

Don't accept ANY water inside the hull.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:33 am 
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Thanks Kal-P-Dal

That's the way I see it. My seal sucks and i can get a finger between the seal. RG


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:01 am 
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You said easy seas? That is a LOT of water and certainly a problem.

Forward hatches are not going to allow water in... even with no seal... unless the bow is submerged. The cover naturally sheds water off and the inner lip is tucked up under the lid. The seal could be installed unevenly. The lip could have been trimmed unevenly. All easy fixes.

I would be looking at scuppers as a possible source.

But most of all... your dealer should be handling this for you. The forums are a great place to find information and support from other boat owners, but service and claims go through dealers.

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