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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:26 pm 
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Glad it all worked out Coughton54. This has become a bit of a scary thread. In a strong gust, I kinda wonder if anyone could swim and catch up to an AI / TI, even with the sail furled.

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:36 pm 
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Slaughter wrote:
Glad it all worked out Coughton54. This has become a bit of a scary thread. In a strong gust, I kinda wonder if anyone could swim and catch up to an AI / TI, even with the sail furled.
In my experience, NO, in almost any sail-able winds. Maybe without a PFD if you were quick enough and the wind was light enough, but... most likely NO!

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:43 pm 
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Unless you and the Hobie are being blown toward shore, and shore is <100 ft away, please don't count on being reunited with your boat.

At the very least, tie yourself to the reefing line.


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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:05 am 
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I have a heavy duty surf ski leg rope around the crossbar just behind my left elbow. I only put it on when I go outside the heads and generally latch it around my massive bicep ( it just fits ). I find that in that spot, I don't even know I have it on ( until I go to jump up on my Haka) .

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:18 am 
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Maybe it's time to add seatbelts to our Hakas? ,-)

I have my leash for offshore, but will try the carabiner system tied to the sheets while sailing inside the reefs. Bought a big stainless clip but it's pretty heavy. I just hope it won't interfere with hiking out.


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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:35 am 
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NOHUHU wrote:
Bought a big stainless clip but it's pretty heavy.

It only needs to be big enough for the knot joining the lines to slip through easily.

NOHUHU also wrote:
I just hope it won't interfere with hiking out.

Not at all, in my experience and certainly less than an extra tethering line would (see Slaughter's comment above).

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:55 am 
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... I'm wondering if a slight spring on the steering arm - pulling it fully to one side when unattended - might make the rig circle like a fallen off jetski. The tricksy part would be to have a strong enough spring to force the circle yet not be obtrusive when sailing

... kinda like a deadman's switch for steering :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:19 pm 
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Slaughter - I am a bit surprised how this thread has taken off too; I thought I was alone in the overboard league and really just wanted to pass on a thank you to you and KayakingBob for your posts last November and to let you know that even a Pommie living in Texas will occasionaly listen to a more experienced Aussie :D :D
I know no one is going to be able to swim fast enough in heavy wind to catch a Hobie, even if the sail was reefed the boat catches too much wind and the drag from your PDF adds to the issue. If you are going overboard and don't have a tether and miss grabbing some part then you're in a real mess.


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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:39 pm 
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A great reminder to everyone to plan ahead for the unexpected. Glad you did, and that everything worked well for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:52 pm 
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Coughton54 wrote:
.............and to let you know that even a Pommie living in Texas will occasionaly listen to a more experienced Aussie :D :D
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A pommie !!! If I'd have known that, the advice may have been different :lol: :lol:
It's OK everyone. Pommies and us have a special bond. So much so that I married one. Pity they can't play cricket though. :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:09 pm 
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I would say a robust solution is a click-on safety harness as used on Yachts.

You could clip yourself to the carry handle on the side of the Hull, (or one each side if on a TI).

The carry handle would be strong enough, wouldn't it ?


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:30 am 
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Oceanmoves, that idea appeals to me, especially since my skipper seat puts me well above the height of the side rails. I tend to leave my feet in the pedal straps to help push back into the seat, and a "lap-belt" could make it much safer (the odds of capsize are hugely less than the odds of falling out of the seat)

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:47 am 
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One thing I need to tweak with my leash is a better quick release mechanism. I'll check out the West Marine Safety Tether quick release that Steve (TNSanders) mentioned earlier in this thread.

In case of the AI pitching and ending up on top of you. One of my worries is getting tangled in the leash and caught underneath the AI. Only once has this happened to me and fortunately I was not leashed. It was a bit unnerving when in a matter of seconds I found myself underwater and underneath the AI. A lesson was learned and hopefully this won't happen again. But you never know ...

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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:44 am 
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" I was wearing my PDF with radio and GPS strapped to the jacket."

Well, the first and most critical mistake you made was that you were supposed to be wearing a PERSONAL FLOTATION DEVICE, NOT a .PDF file!!! 8.5" x 11" copy paper will NOT keep you afloat.


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 Post subject: Re: Overboard
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:10 pm 
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CaptnChaos wrote:
One thing I need to tweak with my leash is a better quick release mechanism. I'll check out the West Marine Safety Tether quick release that Steve (TNSanders) mentioned earlier in this thread.

In case of the AI pitching and ending up on top of you. One of my worries is getting tangled in the leash and caught underneath the AI. Only once has this happened to me and fortunately I was not leashed. It was a bit unnerving when in a matter of seconds I found myself underwater and underneath the AI. A lesson was learned and hopefully this won't happen again. But you never know ...
Unless the sheet is double wrapped around your neck, there is pretty much no chance of this drowning you. It would be easy to surface anywhere around our small boats. And they don't sink, so,..


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