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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:56 pm 
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I would certainly be hesitant to take anchoring loads through one of the amas. Remember they are attached by bungy cords, so a severe pull from below combined with a big wave could result in the ama coming away from the aka.

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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:30 pm 
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...or you could snap the brace bolt shear pin.


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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:38 am 
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ChangeMan wrote:
Not being into fishing I only carry the Cooper for an emergency which hasn't arisen.
But before one does, I'll put some line between the anchor and chain so it will hold on sand.

Thanks for the tip Tony.

Where would we be without this forum?
Brian in South Australia.


I'd appreciate hearing where and how people stow their anchors on the TI for rapid deployment in an emergency. I'm thinking in some sort of bag or roll strapped to the rear aka crossbar would provide quick access from both seating positions.


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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:24 pm 
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I'm using a cheap canvas bag from Harbor Freight for a blue Cooper plus chain and 100 ft of 3/8" rope.
The anchor doesn't quite fit in the bag but I clip the handles together with a couple of carabiners and place it on the rear deck behind the scupper cart with the bungee over both of them.
Most of the time I just turn around in the rear seat and deploy the anchor and just tie a loop to clip into a carabiner on the stern padeye. The extra rope just stays in the bag.
And I will never again forget to also attach the end of the 100 Ft. rope to the boat. I got distracted one day while anchoring standing next to the boat in shallow water on the lee side of a small island in the lake. A puff of wind carried the boat with furled sail away faster than I can swim with my PFD on. It was at that moment I realized that I hadn't attached the end of the rope to the boat. All ended well, I caught up with the boat.

http://www.harborfreight.com/canvas-rig ... 38124.html

A sailboat "rope tidy bag" looks like a better storage solution but I haven't had a chance to make one.

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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:30 am 
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I have been using the automatic swing up dangling anchor thingy with the line spool for a long while now and It's the most trouble free system I have had so far. Yes we have tried grapnel anchors, anchors in bags, trolleys, multiple anchors, anchors stored in hatches (a PIA), etc, etc, etc, and have had to chase our boat down more than once.

We store our TI in the garage on the trailer fully rigged, it takes me all of two minutes to back the trailer out of the garage, hook up to my roadster and I'm off. We leave all the seats, pfd'd, mirage drives, dive flags, Gopro camera poles, and all the massive sails and rigging just laying in the boat. I have heavy duty spray skirts made from heavy duty pet porch screen material that fold over the bow and hold all the rigging in place. We had previously shredded 3-4 sets of spray skirts driving on the interstate going to our other place in Key West (about 350 miles each way). Plus they are heavy enough to sit on or stow gear on, which we like.

I particularly like the anchor line spool thingy that fits in the rod holders ( 100-150 ft of 3/8 anchor line almost fills the passenger area and easily gets all tangled up into a useless mess).
Yes it took me a couple hrs and about $20 bucks in materials to make it originally with a cordless drill ,hack saw, and a little spectra string (to hold it down to the deck, no mods to the boat itself, this is the third TI we installed basically the same system on, many of the parts are almost 6 yrs old now, when we get a new boat we just plug everything in (no mods have ever been made to any hulls)) but that was like 2-3 yrs ago last time we touched anything, I haven't lifted a finger since.

The anchor system just dangles harmlessly above the stern of the boat ready to use any time I need it. I usually tie it off to either the rear carrying handle or the rear aka center brace with a slip knot so I can deploy or retrieve from the front seat. Sometimes when we are out we will deploy and retrieve the anchor 5 or 6 times in a day. There is no maintainence, just rinse it off along with the rest of the boat before unhooking and pulling into the garage (less than 5 minutes, thats it). I'm pretty sure a Cooper anchor would hang just as nicely back there. The boat comes with a bungy to keep it from waving around while on the road. 99 percent of the powerboat anchors I have seen here in Florida are the Fortress type sand anchors (just an observation on my part (I have only seen one Cooper on a powerboat)).
I don't think there are any hard rules on if the anchor mounts to the front or the back of the boat, I suspect the only reason the anchor is in the front on powerboats is because there is a handy storage area built in for anchors. (Granted the bow of my TI is already pretty busy with 260 sq ft of sails (W/135 sq ft spinnaker) which I don't always bring along), wings, bow sprit, and rigging). I actually prefer my anchor off the stern because it adds weight to the back of the boat (preferred on a TI), and it can be deployed during rough surf landings if needed.
The only time the system is removed is annually when I strip the boat down, I flip the boat over and check and clean the bottom, if I find any deep gouges in the hull bottom I repair them with the Hobie welder (a lot of Oyster beds and coral heads around here). I used to scrape all the little scratches on the bottom to make it like new again, but I don't even bother with that anymore, I just fix the bad ones and call it good, doesn't seem to effect speed at all if the bottom is clean or scratched (at least I can't tell any difference). I'm all about zero maintainance.
A typical day in my Hobie life (lol)
Bob


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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:58 pm 
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Hi SCC.
I purchased a white mesh bag about 14" by 9" with eyelets in the top corners.
The company I purchased from now only have expensive branded bags.

I put bungee through the eyelets and tie around the front Aka.
With the blue Cooper anchor and about 50' of rode, it fits (just) in front of the front mirage drive.

Cheers,
Brian in South Australia


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 Post subject: Re: TI anchor system
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:47 am 
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ChangeMan wrote:
Hi SCC.
I purchased a white mesh bag about 14" by 9" with eyelets in the top corners.
The company I purchased from now only have expensive branded bags.

I put bungee through the eyelets and tie around the front Aka.
With the blue Cooper anchor and about 50' of rode, it fits (just) in front of the front mirage drive.

Cheers,
Brian in South Australia


Thanks ChangeMan. Yours is the solution I'm going with. Out of the way but easy to access in an emergency. I'm going to use a 13 litre dry bag which comfortably holds the blue Cooper, 2 metres chain, an anchor float, 30 metres 3/8" anchor line and Hobie drogue. I like the idea of keeping things dry as it's less to rinse and dry after going out. If I were anchoring as much as fusioneng, his system would bear further investigation.


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