Will these upgrades be found on 2015 TI & AI?

That was my line of thinking, but once the wife tried the new seat on an outback at the dealer.... the jury reach their verdict.
2015 TI

CR:
Yep the short shaft is the one you want, you won't regret it, they are remarkable motors that are of the highest quality and reliability. If you run in salt water rinse them off and spray all the bare metal and cables with WD40, it will give you years of trouble free service. I run stabilized premium gas in mine, one five gas gallon can lasts me about a year. If the motors are going to sit for more than a wee I drain the gas out for storage (unless you can find ethanol free gas), the dealer told me he uses AV gas but that's illegal to buy unless your a pilot.
After break in I switched to mobile 1 motor oil and replace every 20 hrs or so of run time.
Good luck
Bob

Looks to me like someone has been given a bum steer in an effort to clear old stock to make room for the new. If that dealer said he won't honor a warranty on an official Hobie product, he has no business being a Hobie dealer, period.

As for the new seat being drier not being a big deal, well, you're soon going to find out its not just about being drier. I see comfort and adjustability as being the bigger issue. And reports I have heard from people who have tried the new drive (at the Hobie fishing worlds) and have used the old one for years and thus have a real base for comparison, the newer ones are noticeably more efficient. Hobie have not done this for a patent issue - they've done it for performance improvement. Bank on it. However it is possible that there might be a little more maintenance involved, but that is no problem for me. I don't neglect my gear.

And 'lake sailing with sea weed?' Oh my god, this guy was willing to say just about anything to take your money. And you fell for it! Haha

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Kayak Fishing Specialist: SLH
https://slhobie.com.au

Spot on Josh, I can't believe a Hobie salesman could sprook such crap, the guy should be selling used cars. I agree, he's just getting rid of his older stock.

Seaweed getting caught on the bow and AMAs? That's a good one.
What does he think the mirage drive and rudder is going to do?

As for the warranty, he has no choice in the matter, he has to do it, as long as it's within the outlined Hobie warranty policy.

I'd love to walk into his dealership and try that crap on me.

Anyways, enjoy your new boat RJ, don't worry mate, it's a good one.

Yea RJ I have a 2012 TI that is still going strong with literally thousands of mile on it with no issues, and those that know me know I push my TI more than anyone out there. I have never had any issues with my mirage drives even though I pedal at least 15 miles every week all year round. Everything on the design of the whole boat is pretty rock solid in my opinion. Just go out and have fun with it, that's what we do with ours. I don't plan to switch out my 2012 TI anytime soon (you would have to pry it from my dead feet (lol, yes I like it that much))
I doubt very much the change to the bow will effect much, and I also doubt if you had a 2014 TI and a 2015 TI pedaling side by side, anyone would notice one being faster than the other. Of course time will tell, and I may be wrong about the new mirage, hopefully someone like roadrunner will do a comparative test on the new mirage drives soon and publish the results for the rest of us.
Bob

I hope no one takes my remarks out of context there - the current TI is an awesome boat to be sure. I'm just saying that the dealer mentioned above has clearly deliberately taken RJ for a ride by suggesting a) Hobie have taken several steps backwards with the changes and b) that he would not honor any potential warranty issues. As someone who has been using an Island for over half a decade and selling them for even longer, the changes in the seat are clearly a step in the right direction, especially for the Islands (more so than any other model). And there is no way in the known world Hobie would have invested as much as they have in the new drive system if it didn't mean a performance improvement.



I doubt that very much to, but I don't think a speed gain is the issue so much as efficiency - which is to say that less effort should be required to reach whatever speed one is travelling. I also think that the difference is going to be less noticeable when comparing brand-spanking drives. Current drives come out of the packet with grease packed onto key friction points - drum, sprocket and idler shaft, so friction is hardly a problem at first. But most users do not service their drive regularly and as such they get gritty and friction starts to become way more noticeable. I am surmising that the addition of roller bearings will help offset this effect somewhat.

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Perhaps it's time for roadrunner to recreate the famous kayak "tug of war" using the new and old mirage drives?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rvFdLdplA[/youtube]

Yeah. Fight Fight Fight!!!

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Since sept 1st, from what I gathered watching Hobie videos, asking my dealer ?s, and looking at other 2015 Hobie mirage kayaks, the 2015 TI will be the same length, the sail the same height, shape, and sq footage. The upgrades will be CT seats, "Glide Technology" mirage drives, Lowrance ready hull, the bow chin profile angles more forward, and maybe deeper drive wells and taller drive well plug like found on the 2015 Outback.
If there is any thing else, guess I'll know in about 3 months.

By the way, I inquired to Hobie if they could do a special order and make a blue TI, and they said they don't make them in blue because AIs and TIs find their way further out to sea, and it is a visibility and safety issue being that blue would act as camouflage.

Might be repeat info, but I came across this today. First I have heard about much larger amas on the 2015 TI

2015 Tandem Island Update
Each ama on the 2015 Tandem Island is much longer and more bouyant vs the 2014 Adventure Tandem Island which had smaller shorter amas.
Reshaped, reverse angle bows.
Elevated seating via the new Vantage ST Seat.
Lowrance-Ready Built-In Transducer Mount.

https://www.strictlysailinc.com/2014/09 ... rovements/

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2015 Hobie TI Dune

I think the comment on ama length should have been for the AI, not the TI.

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Hobie Island Sailing since 2006

I believe you have received misleading information. There is no such model as the Adventure Tandem Island. The Adventure Island does indeed have longer amas, reshaped bow profiles, redesigned cockpit decks, "Vantage" style seat, taller mast with higher scooped cutout in bottom edge of sail, Lowrance-ready transducer tunnel, and new Miragedrive with bearings.

To my knowledge, the Tandem Island will have reshaped bow profiles, redesigned cockpit decks, "Vantage" style seats, Lowrance-ready transducer tunnel, and new Miragedrives with bearings.

While the amas on the 2015 Adventure Island are longer than pre-2015 Adventure Islands, those of the 2015 Tandem Island are the same as earlier models but still slightly longer than fitted to 2015 Adventure Islands.

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Tony Stott
2012 Tandem Island "SIC EM" with Hobie spinnaker

Probably right. Too many rumors not enough facts.

Waiting impatiently.

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2015 Hobie TI Dune

New AI seems to tick all the boxes for me. Looking at this with interest.

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