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Nohu - how is the double bungee method done ?

.. for that matter, I've never investigated how the bungees attach inside the ama's. Edgimukate us ignorant soles

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Here's a few old posts to read:
http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=40730
http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=30065&p=122645

Never mind Bob, I see you posted this in the Haka thread.

When we bought our Adventure Islands, I was less than impressed by the use of structural bungee cords. It just sounds silly. Bungees are not reliable! But they sure are convenient.

That was 2007. I've been enjoying the convenience and ignoring the unreliability successfully ever since.

One of my bungees is now frayed and near the point of parting. The others actually still seem fine. I never expected them to last this long. I guess they are more reliable than I thought. But this thread has motivated me to go around and replace all of them. I think a 5+ year lifespan is adequate.

One of my akas is a "late Friday afternoon" aka and does not have the second pin in it. I have always just stretched the side bungee a bit further to the lower pin when folding the boat and hooked it on top of the ama bungee. I think that if I were to do an EC or something similar in my boat, all four bungees would be doubled. Even though ours have lasted a long time, I still don't really trust bungees.

I found this video of all the Watertribe boats taken Friday afternoon, I was there watching this guy, but couldn't figure out what he was doing till I saw his Gopro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BFxqxAKzCV4

enjoy
Bob

Re bungees, they do give us the advantage of being able to fold the Amas, and that's great (for most of us).

Having too much pressure on them makes folding more difficult and stresses the attachments. So I find that a pair of medium tension cords is preferable to a really tight single connection. One bungee can be removed to allow folding and transport.

Strike me Pink, that standupguy must have legs like the masts of the famous "CUTTY SARK".
He amazes everybody and I for one will give him a fair dinkum Aussie accolade by now refering to him as STANDUPBLOKE...Bloody well done old son
Cheers from Vintagereplica in the Northern Territory of Australia!

After today, in very strong winds and gusts, I have decided to dump the bungees entirely. There is a better way to attach the Aka's. I'll be in touch.

NOHUHU--I see how the higher bungee is attached w/ the clip to the eye pad. How is the lower bungee attached to the eye pad?

Keith

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Keith, he drilled a hole in the plastic padeye to mimic the shock cord end fitting (tied a knot in the cord).

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Still flexible enough to fold, had it this way for a year now.

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also a more manageable 100 square foot spinny...
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Correct. The Padeye replaces the original holed fitting, then a bungee hole is drilled under, or beside the padeye.

The redundant bungees are clipped on and unleashed or removed for transport/folding.

Easy Peasy. Cheap and reliable. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Just ran out of popcorn at the same time I finished a second reading of this thread. Wow! Big thank you Nohuhu, and an even bigger thank you to all those who actually went out there and attempted it. Enjoy your rest.

Loved the pics. Hope we hear more stories. Would also love to hear more details about the design and construction of Kayakman7's boat and JollyRoger's boat.

Tony, was that you in Florida? I've been impressed with your aerial photo abilities.