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Author:  Slaughter [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

Stringy, you're good with Photoshop. Could you modify a photo of Mickeys houseboat and hang 3 Hennessy Hammocks and tether 4 AI's off it. Gee I bet that's a good look. Add the caption 'The Gypsys have come to Jervis'. and you have a winner in the photo comp.

Author:  mickeymouse [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 am ]
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Slaughter wrote:
Stringy, you're good with Photoshop. Could you modify a photo of Mickeys houseboat and hang 3 Hennessy Hammocks and tether 4 AI's off it. Gee I bet that's a good look. Add the caption 'The Gypsys have come to Jervis'. and you have a winner in the photo comp.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
One guy who owned one wanted to put one of these out the back above the rear deck - er verandah
http://www.kampers.com.au/sub.php?p=Roo ... pAodWGL7GA

Re the Hammock - it's quite a pricey project, by the time you factor in all the costs.
Chris - do you think there is any reasonable alternative to the underlay? I am thinking of a woolen underlay like you have on a bed but haven't looked into it closely yet. My wife (Minnie) was Sleeping Beauty working in manchester & knows a thing or two about bedding :lol: :roll: :wink:

Author:  mickeymouse [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:32 am ]
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I'm not sure if my current design for the poles is strong enough for you, but my earlier design, incorporating two boat hooks, almost certainly is.

Chris - I have some concerns about this too. I think I might have to look at aluminium if I proceed with this project.
I love the idea of the potential freedom from beauracracy etc & this trip may be the motivating force to pursue it.

On the other hand - particularly given the time of year - it would be nice to have the home comforts that a house/cabin/caravan etc offer and go out on daily adventures to explore the incredible beauty spots in this area.
If the weather was unsuitable for our AIs we still have the option of exploring on road.........

This place seems to have a lot of favourable references http://www.jervisbaycabins.com.au/welcome.html

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:51 am ]
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Mickey, re the undercover: There certainly seem to be plenty of people who have made their own undercovers. Have a look on the Hammock Forum: http://www.hammockforums.net. The important thing is it needs to be under the hammock, not inside the hammock, for two reasons:
1. If it's inside the hammock, it is much less efficient as an insulator as it is compressed by your weight, collapsing the potential air spaces.
2. Both Phil and I found that a sleeping bag could keep you warm, but it is too awkward sleeping inside the bag while in the hammock. The bag keeps slipping around in the hammock every time you want to roll over or squirm. I still use my sleeping bag, but lay it over me, like a blanket.

Author:  Slaughter [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

I think we are on the same wavelength Mickey. I can justify $200, but $400 is a bit over the top for me. But I'll get some prices and then we can make a decision.

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:07 am ]
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Slaughter wrote:
I can justify $200, but $400 is a bit over the top for me.
I probably would not have purchased my hammock if I'd known it would be $440. The thing is, once I had committed to the hammock, I had already spent $240, so the extra $200 was to protect my initial investment. However, personally, I wouldn't want a refund, but I have already had good use from it and expect a lot more.
stringy wrote:
However even Chris's innovative solution would not apply to the Beecroft Peninsula weekday restrictions. Friendly fire might put a damper on our trip! :shock:
If we could find a secluded beach out of the defense zone I don't have a problem with sleeping on the beach. If you're allowed day/picnic access and you only sleep on the sand I can't see a problem.
Chris's solution is only legal if he stays moored off the beach.
Stringy, unrestricted mooring seems to be permitted along much of the Beecroft Peninsula. You don't need to moor offshore. If you are on wet sand, or in a shallow tidal creek, you are legal.
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NB!! I am NOT trying to convince anyone to get a hammock. They are expensive and you may or may not enjoy using one.

mickeymouse wrote:
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This place seems to have a lot of favourable references http://www.jervisbaycabins.com.au/welcome.html

Mickey, I keep saying the campsite on Currambene Creek looks promising, but no-one is listening. You've found their website - excellent! They have cabins for those who want them, campsites for campers and boat access to the creek.

Author:  mickeymouse [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:20 pm ]
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chrisj wrote:
Slaughter wrote:
I can justify $200, but $400 is a bit over the top for me.
I probably would not have purchased my hammock if I'd known it would be $440. The thing is, once I had committed to the hammock, I had already spent $240, so the extra $200 was to protect my initial investment. However, personally, I wouldn't want a refund, but I have already had good use from it and expect a lot more.
stringy wrote:
However even Chris's innovative solution would not apply to the Beecroft Peninsula weekday restrictions. Friendly fire might put a damper on our trip! :shock:
If we could find a secluded beach out of the defense zone I don't have a problem with sleeping on the beach. If you're allowed day/picnic access and you only sleep on the sand I can't see a problem.
Chris's solution is only legal if he stays moored off the beach.
Stringy, unrestricted mooring seems to be permitted along much of the Beecroft Peninsula. You don't need to moor offshore. If you are on wet sand, or in a shallow tidal creek, you are legal.
Image

NB!! I am NOT trying to convince anyone to get a hammock. They are expensive and you may or may not enjoy using one.

mickeymouse wrote:
Quote:
This place seems to have a lot of favourable references http://www.jervisbaycabins.com.au/welcome.html

Mickey, I keep saying the campsite on Currambene Creek looks promising, but no-one is listening. You've found their website - excellent! They have cabins for those who want them, campsites for campers and boat access to the creek.

If we have a base camp, it would mean we could keep things fairly simple (& I could bring the cook and doggies) but still have the option to camp o/nite somewhere if we want. What does everyone think :? :roll:
As far as I can tell we are also up in the air re dates - which is OK with me. I'm happy to wait & see when Chris might be able to come. I should also mention that I should be home Wed 12 May for our Ulysses Branch AGM (Minnie is Treasurer & Quartermaster & I'm on the Committee) but anytime before or after is still OK.

Author:  stringy [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

Chris,
The negative with a base camp on the Western side of JB is that it is much further from the interesting areas around the Beecroft Peninsula and Bowen Island. The western side is also the most built up. It might make a nice destination if we were circumnavigating JB though.
To me Currarong is the ideal base camp because of the easy access to ocean and bay.
A midweek special is their deluxe cabin that sleeps 6 for $100 night. Would midweek suit you better? There hasn't been too much interest from others who can only make a weekend.

Regarding the hammock, I too would only be interested in the hammock without the base. If we buy from them directly it looks like they throw in snakeskins and another fly?
BTW- What is the minimum length that works for your support poles? I am thinking of stainless telescoping tubes as I have some already and I can weld SS but not aluminium. :)

Author:  Slaughter [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:45 pm ]
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So many questions.
Weekdays, weekends, any days are fine with me except the 1st weekend in May.
$100 for 6 in a cabin sounds good as well if we want to go that way.
Still haven't got a bulk prices on the hammocks if we want to go that way.
I bought a 3m length of poly pipe and cut it in 2. I'm only guessing but 1.5m would be a minimum for each pipe length support I reckon before your bum gets close to the deck. Do you agree Chris ?
I'll have a look around on the hammock forum ( gee there is a forum for everything these days hey ) and see what others have done.
This looks OK....http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gos ... light.html

Author:  chrisj [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

Yeah, 5 feet is probably minimum length. I use 6 feet, to get a bit of headroom for the flysheet.

Author:  Slaughter [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

Looks like the saving on buying bulk hammocks is in the delivery. We will save about $40 each buy combining the postage.

The Explorer Delux A-sym $220 incl. snake skins and larger fly and postage
The Expedition A-sym $160 incl. snake skins and larger fly and postage.

No great hurry yet but let me know what you want to do. I can buy them via Visa and then sort it out later.

Author:  mickeymouse [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:11 am ]
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Hmm - from what I can gather Slaughter & Stringy are pretty much committed to going down the hammock route - is that correct guys???? If so, I will also - however I need to ensure the frame is strong enough and like the sound of Stringy's SSteel design. I know it's considerably dearer but think it would provide the strength I probably need, so I would appreciate it if you could make me a frame when you make your own Stringy :) 8) :wink:
Chris - have you got a photo of your underlay or whatever it's called?? I have a single layer wool bed underlay that can be cut to any size required.
Stringy - I like the sound (and midweek price) of your base camp. I have spoken to the cook & doggies and I have been given a free leave pass to proceed without them...........If we go down this track we may not need to all go down the Hennessey hammock track - true?? :roll:
If all of the above is contradictory I apologise - but I think I'm feeling a bit confused :?
Are we all thinking that this expedition will now occur mid to late May ? :roll:

Author:  mickeymouse [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

Slaughter - If we are all committed to going down this track, I would go with The Explorer Delux A-sym $220 incl. snake skins and larger fly and postage. Is that buying from the company website?? Seems to be somewhat cheaper than the price I worked out earlier :roll: :roll:
You may want to proceed with the purchase regardless of whether we stay in the base camp cabin - in which case I think I would too - particularly if Stringy could fabricate a SS frame for me (of course I would reimburse him :wink: )
Stringy - the biggest reservation I have about it is that we will soon have our TI and the hammock frame will not fit it :( :shock:

Author:  chrisj [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:25 am ]
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Stringy, you've been to Jervis Bay and I haven't, so you obviously know the locale better than I do, but camping at Currarong seems like a less flexible option to me.
It is a 15 km sail from Currarong to the entrance to Jervis Bay and if this article is anything to go by, conditions can be very similar to those we encountered leaving Port Stephens. The thing is, if we are camped at Currarong and the swell is up, we have no option but to tackle the rough seas.
If we are camped within Jervis Bay, we have the option to explore the coast outside if conditions are favourable, or to explore within the Bay if they aren't.
Looking at the maps, the approximate distances to various points are:
Currambene Creek to Honeymoon Bay: 10 km
Currarong to Honeymoon Bay: 21 km
Currambene Creek to Bowen Island: 12 km
Currarong to Bowen Island: 18.5 km
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Bowen Island or Hole-in-the-Wall would obviously be the most flexible place to camp and this may be do-able with hammocks, but I really think you guys will regret it if you attempt it without adequate undercovers.
I'm not particularly attached to it, but it seems to me that Currambene Creek may be the least worst option.
Of course, we always have the option to load the boats on the cars each day and drive to the most favourable launch points.

Author:  Cowsgomoo [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: East Coast Extravaganza - Jervis Bay

mickeymouse wrote:
Stringy - the biggest reservation I have about it is that we will soon have our TI and the hammock frame will not fit it :( :shock:


Isn't the aka spacing about the same between the AI and TI?

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