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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:11 pm 
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And what is a "Rudder Box"?

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:55 pm 
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Aledal wrote:
Well then... thats good enough for me.
When was the last time you flossed you bastard?


I don't understand your reply Aledal. What do you mean?...Pirate

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:03 pm 
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Tourette's?

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:40 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:55 am 
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You guys must be chewing beetle nuts cause you ain't making sense to me..........Pirate :? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:40 am 
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Sorry mates-three sheets to the wind and grogged yesterday watching "Pirates Of The Caribbean" God what awful teeth pirates have. Still... I was wrong to stereotype you Pirate.

And Dan? Only kidding about the question mark. Don`t want to upset the Hobie Gods and become a "Jonah" :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:14 am 
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Glad that the explaination was forthcoming, I was getting confused, but thats just me. Like things on an even keel.


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:45 pm 
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AlohaDan wrote:
Can the Hobie staff please answer the question on filling in the transom extension with epoxy.


I believe we have filled some transoms to prevent a leak around the pin fitting. Seems reasonable to me that this would strengthen the transom. The choice of material is the real question. That I can not answer with certainty. This is not something we have tested for this purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:02 pm 
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I know one thing Matt... the mold that created the Adventure must have cost a mint and expensive to revise.

"Hindsight is easy"

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:24 pm 
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Now I get it Aledal. Yep us pirates mostly give personal hygene just a lick and a promise on most work-days.. :oops:
Now get back to those beetle nuts matey.....Pirate :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:59 pm 
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I never floss on my work days either yuh bastard..

What`s a beetle nut? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:48 am 
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mmiller wrote:
AlohaDan wrote:
Can the Hobie staff please answer the question on filling in the transom extension with epoxy.


I believe we have filled some transoms to prevent a leak around the pin fitting. Seems reasonable to me that this would strengthen the transom. The choice of material is the real question. That I can not answer with certainty. This is not something we have tested for this purpose.


Problem is polyethylene wonderful material thats pretty much chemical resistant a mechanical bond is all you can hope for if your going to do an epoxy pour in the transom.


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:16 am 
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How about jamming/hammering some G/flex coated aluminum foil into the transom using a long rod? Just a thought. After reading all these posts I`d definately feel safer with a brass pin!

I`m adding steel (square)rods to my molded handles today for a better grip...I cut off the paddle cords and I`m using those holes to insert bolts. It will look stock-(like it came from the factory) and improve safety (for rough weather sailing)and Mirage drive performance.

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:32 am 
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Read a bic pen was used for a temporary fix (non AI model). Just thought I would share.

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Pin design
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:48 am 
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Aledal,

I bought my AI in february, an 09, since then I've put 200+ miles on mine using the D type pin. Probably 150 miles on one pin. I've been in all kinds of conditions, my lines to the rudder a slightly loose, when I cleat the rudder down I alway let up and give it a half to an inch of play, when steering, if I ever feel I have to put pressure on the rudder to turn then I reef in the sail a little.

Also, I rarely get more than 6 mph, maybe it's because most times the wind picks up the chop is too great. I seem to recall early posts about people breaking pins on consistent high speed runs, 6+ mph.

I too was worried about the pin when I got mine, but I have had zero problems, knock on wood. Bring spares, and know how to put them in, bring some pliers in case it's a bugger to get out.


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