Xi Bowhunter wrote:
I really have no intention of powering my PA, unless I move to the coast, but I would like to have the option. I've already planned out the motor drive for my PA, but I am always looking for ways to improve.
Just out of curiosity; if you have NO intention of powering your PA, why would you make such a big tiff about Tom not sharing his design. It's his design, he can do what he wants with it.
I'm sure everyone here would like to see it, but no one is going to see it, so get over it
Arguing about it is like arguing over lotto winnings that your second cousin's sister's aunt's friend's brother got. He's not obligated to share anything, nor is Tom. Sure, other people show their propulsion ideas, but that's because they've all been done before. Nothing is new, or innovative, or anything. They're all a trolling motor, on a kayak. Do you think that Torqeedo would have said, "Hey guys, look at this system. We think we'll call it the evolve." NO WAY in H3LL
I'm sure this "special part" could be CNCd or cast molded, and that's prpbably how Tom did it because as he said, injection molding costs BIG money. Furthermore, this company that Tom has in mind to create this propulsion system aint gonna do jack, if they can't make money on it, and a sh!t load of money at that. No one is going to create a $20,000 injection mold to break even. So, figure that it might cost $200 to produce the product, and they could sell it for $500. $300 profit. Now, figure how many of those they'll have to SELL, just to break even for production costs
My opinionated guess is, the furthest this product will go, will be the aft keel of Tom's boat, and his friends. The benefit of the Evolve (although outrageously expensive) is that it can go in ANY Hobie....not just a PA.
Everyone can form opinions of Tom's system, and believe it to be falacy, or truth....but, still doesn't change that you aint gonna see jack
My hope is, with these future videos, Tom will slip up and show it on clear water, on cloudy day (sunny day would produce glare) and then we may get an idea.
Put you reading glasses on, and re-read what I posted. I would like to have the "option" to power my PA, and if I move to the coast (which is a possibility) I would want to power my PA to get me off-shore to fish.
I have to deal with blow-hards every week in my job, as I work with the public, so I hear a lot of talk and no substance on a regular basis from the people I have to deal with. I'm sorry, but this whole thread beating the drum of this "wave of the furure" seems like a lot of noise, but no music.
And, on anothe note, if this idea is so hard to build without some fancy cast-mold machine, that seems all the more reason to let people in on just a little of how it works.
I would still like to know what "3rd" party company is working on this project, so I can keep an eye out for it if they decide to move forward.
There are plenty of methods of powering kayaks out there, so if this is a legit "wave of the future", it shouldn't be hard to get someone to help get the idea off the ground. Look at all the methods of purpulsion that started to surface after the Mirage drive made it big.
I guess I will just have to keep throwing a "tiff", as long as there are big talks and no action in this thread.