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Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
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Author:  Trinomite [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
Hi Matt
Which of the Sidekick Ama Kits would fit best on an '11 PA?
The standard one or the one with the center bar?
From the drawings of the deck, right behind the seat would seem to be the best place to mount the akas?
Thanks in Advance
Fred
Author:  mmiller [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
There is only one type of "SideKick" ama kit. The kit is not appropriate for the Pro Angler. They have too much freeboard. I would think the Pro Angler is pretty stable and would not need amas for balance.
Author:  Trinomite [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
Matt

This is not my boat. An area neighbor bought a PA as a commuter craft to use for a mile each way on not the most protected harbor on the Coast at times(mostly in Winter if the wind, wave pattern shift, combined with near sub zero weather)
My response was that the stability of the craft was superb (as opposed to a 12-14 foot aluminum cartopper with an outboard. It was mentioned that an Ama kit might increase stability. It was also mentioned that a second seat for a new PA owner would not be the best idea. I agree.
May I suggest that the wording in the Catalogue be changed on the Sidekick Ama kit be revised to delete the wording "suitable for any Hobie Kayak Model"

Thanks
Trinomite
Author:  augaug [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
Trinomite wrote:
...May I suggest that the wording in the Catalogue be changed on the Sidekick Ama kit be revised to delete the wording "suitable for any Hobie Kayak Model"...


In most of the Hobie information, the Pro Angler isn't referred to as a kayak. If you check the website the Pro Angler is broken down into a separate category called "Mirage Drive Boats" while the other categories are "Mirage Drive Kayaks" and "Paddle Kayaks".

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but often it's the user that calls the Pro Angler a kayak, more then Hobie. Having said that, the "Mirage Drive Boats" section is under the Kayaking tab, so I can see how it might be misleading to some.
Author:  mmiller [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
Trinomite wrote:
May I suggest that the wording in the Catalogue be changed on the Sidekick Ama kit be revised to delete the wording "suitable for any Hobie Kayak Model"


Yeah.... as we add models, sometimes old text descriptions like this are out dated.
Author:  Memory Maker [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
augaug wrote:
Trinomite wrote:
...May I suggest that the wording in the Catalogue be changed on the Sidekick Ama kit be revised to delete the wording "suitable for any Hobie Kayak Model"...


In most of the Hobie information, the Pro Angler isn't referred to as a kayak. If you check the website the Pro Angler is broken down into a separate category called "Mirage Drive Boats" while the other categories are "Mirage Drive Kayaks" and "Paddle Kayaks".

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but often it's the user that calls the Pro Angler a kayak, more then Hobie. Having said that, the "Mirage Drive Boats" section is under the Kayaking tab, so I can see how it might be misleading to some.


It's also only purchased where Hobie Kayaks are sold and it is listed in Hobie's kayak catalog etc etc etc ........... and is considered by the public as a Kayak so the accessories should specifically state that it is not for the Pro Angler
Author:  mmiller [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
Reality is... you could use it on the Pro Angler I think. Just not as effective due to the freeboard (amas would not touch water in the down position) and having to mount it well aft due to width constraints of the crossbar.

I have noted a change for the next catalog though... to simply say it fits "most" Hobie Kayaks.
Author:  Mary Skater [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question for Matt Miller Re: PA and Ama Kit
When I'm visualizing my "dream" boat (for when I retire, not too far away now) I've been planning on an Adventure with the sidekick amas, mostly to be left in the "up" position. I want to paddle on the sea, and I'd only set out if conditions were good, but things can change fast. My thinking is that the amas "up" won't be in the way or cause any drag, but might save me from a capsize in unexpected rough water. And, if I did fall off the boat for any reason, the amas would be there to help me re-enter - no messing about with paddle floats.

I don't know if it's possible to capsize a kayak with amas fitted, at least in any waters I'm likely to be paddling. If it happened, the amas would resist righting the boat. I think if I threw my weight on one, I could force it under, allowing the kayak to come over. Failing that, next step would be to either detach or deflate one float until the boat was righted, then sort it out from there.

If I'm wrong about any of this, somebody please tell me!

Mary
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