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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:17 am 
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Try it now guys. We've modified the permissions.

(We recently created a new forum after numerous problems with the former host and software. Permissions are obviously still not up to scratch. My apologies for that oversight. We are fixing others as I type this …)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:50 am 
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Graeme, Thanks...it works well and the photos with instructions are nice and clear!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:33 am 
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Ordered mine, can't wait to get it installed and use it on the water.
Now I'm looking forward to see some of the DIY ideas of some kind of stand to protect the rudder when you raise the bow to load it on your truck or car.
I have some ideas in my head but need my rudder installed to experiment.
Post your pictures with your ideas.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:35 am 
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svendawg,

Ordered mine too and can't wait to try it out.
I look forward to seeing everyone's mods and installs.

If all else fails, I imagine the larger rudder won't interfere when loading/unloading with the wheels on.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:40 pm 
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How much are they?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:37 pm 
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Dr.SteelheadCatcher wrote:
Graeme....Why do I need to create an account to read your post?

Hmmm... I was able to click on the link and view it :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:58 pm 
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InlandYaker52 wrote:
How much are they?


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See Matt Miller's post above...$26.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:35 pm 
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islandspeed2001...If you went back far enough to my first post, the link did not work w/o logging on.....Graeme was able to remedy the link as you found...... :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:08 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:13 am 
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Two on order!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:11 pm 
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I just installed the new rudder in my PA-14.....Graeme's photo's and info are spot on......my only suggestion is to know upfront, the two screws that the rudder pivots on, in the stainless steel bracket/shaft assembly, are "Locktited" with red/permanent Loctite.
The Philips head screw, is a flat head machine screw about 1/2" long.....it threads into a hollow "shaft" that has a common head slot on the back end.
Make sure you select the largest Philips head and slotted head screw drivers that fit so you do not strip the heads.....especially the shaft-slotted head hardware......might be hard to find a replacement with out ordering from Hobie.....the Loctite really bonds the hardware together.
I was able to break the Loctite bond while applying/pushing significant force to the screw heads, with the screw drivers while unscrewing at the same time.

The spring is easy to switch over.....as Graeme noted, pay attention to the spring installation when taking it apart from the old rudder.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:12 am 
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After some of my frustrations with the current setup this looks like some welcome relief but,
I only transport with a P/U truck and it creates a steep angle as I lift the nose into the bed for loading. Do you think the new rudder could be damaged in this process?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:22 am 
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Dr.SteelheadCatcher wrote:
I just installed the new rudder in my PA-14.....Graeme's photo's and info are spot on......

Just a correction: the photos and instructions are not mine. I'm one of the administrators on that forum and it was another member who initiated that thread. I linked to it because I realised you guys would appreciate the information.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:26 am 
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Bgdel wrote:
After some of my frustrations with the current setup this looks like some welcome relief but,
I only transport with a P/U truck and it creates a steep angle as I lift the nose into the bed for loading. Do you think the new rudder could be damaged in this process?

I'm speculating here, but I think it would cause damage to the rudder, since the rudder is proud of the hull in this configuration. When I fit mine, I'll place a pair of bricks or wooden blocks under the drag plates when lifting the bow to make sure the rudder stays off the ground. I'll come up with a better solution after I have the rudder though.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:38 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
It will fit any PA 12 or 14, but is over-sized and due to that... is not a "Direct" replacement in that is exceeds some of the design conditions for the Pa 12 and 14. It extends aft of the handle. It extends aft on the loading skids, so will require careful handling or slight modification for loading using the skids.

It has to be large to add surface area.

This is a optional accessory for added rudder authority. It is not a retrofit or warranty replacement.


Just installed the new large rudder.

The original rudder measured rougly 6.5 by 14.75 inches across widest/longest points.
The large rudder was roughly 7 by 16 inches.
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The large rudder does not extend aft of the rear handle nor the loading skids.
It DOES extend below the loading skids when stowed. So caution is needed when dragging or picking up the bow too high.

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I installed on an April 2012 version of the PA14.

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