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Author:  msl4492 [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:06 pm ]
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My brother and were looking in to buying a more high performance sailboat like a Hobie 16. we started with a $25 sunfish then quickly moved into a Capri 14.2 now that we are looking for a little more speed and a catamaran to take it to the beach with us.

the Problem:
I am 6ft 5in and 250lb and my brother is 6 3 and 250lb i am concerned about the performance of a Hobie 16 with such a large crew weight. if we were able to sail it up onto one hull would the boat stay afloat and stay together. Also how much weight are the trapeze wires capable of handling?

thanks
Stewart

Author:  John Lunn [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:27 am ]
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The quick answer is that you EACH need your own H16.

The longer answer is based on Class rules....minimum weights....you'll find that H16 sails best at around 280 - 300 lbs. Once the crew weight is more than about 320 lbs, she will not perform well. Sure, we've all been out there with three or even four adults on board, and H16 sailed like a pig, right?

The boat can take a huge amount of abuse, however performance will suffer.

So try solo sailing, or move up to a larger cat.

Author:  sxrracer [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:33 am ]
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I would say an 18

Author:  OlderBowman [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:43 am ]
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I agree a larger, more bouyant boat is in order. The H16 has precious little bouyancy up front. God help you guys if you pitchpole her. A H18 should handle your weight OK. She'll still be a little overloaded but fun to sail.
Even an H20 would be good if you have a place to leave her rigged.

Author:  jkkartz [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:50 am ]
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They'll have no trouble righting it.

Author:  ronholm [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:34 am ]
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A 16 will 'handle' ya'll just fine.. But it wouldn't perform well at all...

Two 16's would be the best... Soloing a 16 at that weight would work quite well..

An 18 would be even better... Even solo..

Author:  Chet3 [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:47 pm ]
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For that crew weight a Hobie 18 is a much better boat. It will handle that weight with no problem and will be faster with that crew weight. The big difference between the H18 and H16 is the hull volume in the bows, the 18 has much more volume and is not nearly as sensitive to pitchpoling. A heavily loaded 16 will bury the bow and pitch over easy with a heavy crew weight.

Author:  msl4492 [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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thanks for all the input. I guess i shall continue my quest in search for a H18 or H20.

my question still stands, does anyone know how much weight a regular set of trap wires for the H18 or H20 can handle. while i'm looking for a boat to purchase i want the trap wires if we would be able to use them.
thanks
stewart

Author:  MBounds [ Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm ]
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msl4492 wrote:
I am 6ft 5in and 250lb and my brother is 6 3 and 250lb
500 lbs is not going to be fast on any beach cat.

You guys need a couple of Finn dinghies.
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Or learn how to crew on a Star boat.
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The Hobie 16 was just not made for big guys.

18 or 20 would be better.

Author:  MBounds [ Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm ]
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msl4492 wrote:
I am 6ft 5in and 250lb and my brother is 6 3 and 250lb
500 lbs is not going to be fast on any beach cat.

You guys need a couple of Finn dinghies.
Image

Or learn how to crew on a Star boat.
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The Hobie 16 was just not made for big guys.

18 or 20 would be better.

Author:  srm [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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I agree, 18, 20, or even a 21 would be the best choice.

The trap wires will be fine if they're in good shape. 1/8" stainless steel cable can support over 1000 lbs.

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Author:  FlyNavy [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:16 am ]
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I just want to know what it looked like when you were both on the Sunfish?

Author:  msl4492 [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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sadly we didn't sail the sunfish together.

Author:  bock1 [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:19 pm ]
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Why not get one of these ......


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Author:  Vern [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:23 am ]
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Why not consider a Getaway, with a spinnaker or a screecher you would still have good performance. This would also allow you to have a friend or two on board.

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