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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:10 pm 
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Skadar,
I capsized my Oasis once with both sails out and neither mast fell out.
The cleated furling lines kept them in place so ensure your furling line is properly cleated.
It could happen but would be most unlikely. You stand a greater chance of losing the bearing when inserting/removing the mast.
Not much help I know but..... :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:14 pm 
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Oh, you're right... I forgot about the cleated furling line. I installed a padeye with a block about 1 foot to the right of the mast mount through which I pass the sheet as well as the furling line (next to the block), so this would actually be the point from which the mast is being secured. That should be fine. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:32 pm 
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Here's what my setup looks like:

Below: Sail furled
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Below: Sail open and being used
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:05 pm 
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Great work Skadar! 8)
Looks like you've solved the problem of the furling line getting caught around the bearing. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:06 pm 
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Thank you so much for your excellent plans. I have got all the parts and waiting for delivery of my Adventure Monday. Just one question I have not been able to answer. When underway and you remove the mast to store it how do you prevent the the washers and bearing from falling off?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:03 am 
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Doc Ron,

I've been using a rubber band on the end of the mast when not in use. When I go to install the mast, I pull off the rubber band and loop it over the rudder down handle (just to store it somewhere) while underway.

It's the simplest thing I could think of.

Cheers.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:42 pm 
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Has anyone used just a teflon washer instead of the roller bearing? Would seem to me that might work?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:17 am 
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I am probably doing some tests with metal washers and teflon spray tomorrow. I have my doubts, though.. I'm also having difficulties in finding those (or similar) parts Skadar is using, dang. My setup is going to be much more ugly :(


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:11 am 
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Here's what my setup looks like:

Below: Sail furled


Skader, Nice setup. Could you share the parts you used, and where you purchased them?
Would also love to see a wide shot photo, showing your entire rig setup.
Thanks,
Arlan


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:43 pm 
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Search for 7/8" 'rail mount cleat'
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Thanks Stringy.
Whitworth's does not ship to the US, but the search for "Rail Mount Cleat" brings up numerous options.
Arlan


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:43 pm 
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http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=23653F

This looks about the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:59 am 
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Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been on vacation in Maine where I was doing a bit of kayaking. :)

I found my rail-mounted cleats at West Marine. Looks like others have already pointed you in the right direction.

As you might have guessed, I hacked off the ends of the cleat as they were not needed, and just got in the way. Even with the shortened cleat, my mirage drive pedal (when fully extended) does occasionally tap the cleat depending upon its orientation. I can probably just lower it a bit to make this problem go away.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:35 am 
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I have a sail on the way for my Outback so I'm doing a bit of research before it arrives.

I found this video that has another method http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv ... ion_293026

The one in the video looks simpler to make as you don't need thrust bearings. You could even fit a collar below the pipe so it stays on when removing the sail. I guess you could even attached the sail bungy to the pipe?

I'm only going off what I've read on the net as I haven't seen a sail in the flesh yet. Plus I've never sailed anything before so it's all new to me. Comments?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:34 am 
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John,
There are many ways to achieve roller furling. Halibu's solution seems to work well. I can't comment because I haven't tried his method. He has come up with some amazing innovations! :shock:
The simplest solution is just to attach the canopy bow knuckle and line to the mast as detailed on P1 of this post, but without any bearings. You can still furl the sail OK but unfurling is more difficult due to the friction in the mast tube. It's more important to be able to furl the sail in quickly when necessary so you might find that's all you need. :)


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