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Crieke
 Post subject: Hydrafoils ?? Or not?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:51 pm 
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I have a question about using hydrafoils on the bow for anti pitchpoling. Is there any negatives besides asthetics to using them? Do they put any stress on the hulls in a bad way? Or, cause another hazard while preventing pitchpoling?

Are they truely affective?

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fastgus
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They certenly help. Down here in Ecuador, during our summer, we do have choppy seas, and big waves, and they help a lot.
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I have more fun on my boat with the hydrofoils. You can push it a lot harder and when that bow goes under, letting up on the main just a little will bring her back up as apposed to letting the main out a lot and stopping. I started with them on my 14T because me being just over 200lbs it would stick a bow under water all the time. I then put them on my 16 and really like them. Anyone who has sailed my boat has bought or made them for theirs.

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NOT

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:55 am 
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Little Wing wrote:
NOT

I concur !!!

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Here's a little more:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=30618

I have them as I am a relatively new sailor AND I am teaching my 9 y.o. girls and don't want to ruin them on sailing this early in life.

Forget the ego, get the gear and use the right tool for the job. My plan is to remove them when our collective skills improve.

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buxton
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:36 am 
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But why would you want to remove them? Unless you're racing why not use an item that let's you sail harder and faster? Most people against them have never used them, once that sucker saves you from a pitch pole, you won't take them off. Even well experienced race car drivers use a seat belt.

Again, I highly recommend them, if someone's worried about looking like a girly man because they have hydrofoils, they have other issues to deal with.

Just my opinion.

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Jman6631
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A valid point Buxton. Maybe I'll leave them, maybe I'll remove them once in a while to get that experience, too.

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If you mean more experence pitchpoling, then by all means remove them.
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Jman6631
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seems like a right of passage, eh?

Also, I'm working on adding a hooter to lift the bows and improve upwind performance and reducing the chance of a pitchpoling further... :wink:

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I don't know if the hooter will reduce the chances of pichpoling in general, but it should definitely make any more spectacular. There are a couple spitfire (a British sport cat) videos that show some pretty good pitchpoles while using a spinnaker. Good sailing.
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gary eudy
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This is kind of the same thing as mast floats. Many of us have sailed many many days and some nights without the training wheels. A end over end flip is not the end of the world
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I sailed without a bob until I ripped my sail on a log when it went turtle, the bob is cheaper than a second sail repair so now I fly with it proudly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:09 am 
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NO! I would rip those off breaking thru waves.

Proper weight distribution can and will prevent the pitchpole, the foils are just a patch for poor technique. With the mast raked back by using the aussie halyards the 16 is way less prone to pitch. Mast straight up is a recipe for disaster on the 16, most recreational sailors do not rake the mast back enough IMO.

The BOB is just................silly(?)
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buxton
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ncmbm wrote:
NO! I would rip those off breaking thru waves.

You must sail in some pretty hard water, I'll bet grits cook faster on your stove too.

Proper weight distribution can and will prevent the pitchpole, the foils are just a patch for poor technique. With the mast raked back by using the aussie halyards the 16 is way less prone to pitch. Mast straight up is a recipe for disaster on the 16, most recreational sailors do not rake the mast back enough IMO.

yada yada yada, go back and read the original question. 11 years of sailing Hobie's and I'm not an expert but I don't comment on stuff I haven't used because I think I'm above it.

The BOB is just................silly(?)

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