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Renew old hobie wave or buy a new one ?
Renew 55%  55%  [ 6 ]
Buy new one 45%  45%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:14 am 
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I got a 98 wave. Mast its ok, hulls ,ruddles and trampoline too. But I want to change the trampoline for a club one.

Broken or missing parts :
:!: Sail, cables, ropes and other small parts.

My question its worth to renew it and buy all those parts? Here in Puerto Rico its like $5,800 for a new one.

If the answer is yes. Its there any store online where I can fing good prices :?:

Thanks for your time in advance.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:22 am 
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I just went thru this this spring...

I picked "buy a new one" for three reasons:

1.) resale value of your 98 is very good to excellent because there are so few used ones on the market.
2.) It helps our class numbers grow, which helps spread Wave love:>
3.) The better tramp is well worth the upgrade. The whole boat is MUCH tighter, hulls don't "walk" like with old tramp.

You will still have some work to do on the new one, especially if you change out new style rudders for old, but new boat maintenance seems to end quicker which gets you sailing faster.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:09 pm 
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Mimi Appel wrote:
You will still have some work to do on the new one, especially if you change out new style rudders for old
Mimi


Please don't be misleading anyone that they should go to the expense and trouble of replacing the EZ Lock rudders with the old obsolete style rudders. That's ridiculous! The new design is much better and maintenance-free.

For a light-wind situation, which is unlikely in Puerto Rico, he can easily add a tiller extension on the crossbar to sit further forward, if he wants. And if he does get the opportunity to race it, both the IHCA and IWCA will (probably) soon be legalizing tiller extensions for racing, so there's no reason for spending big bucks to down-grade a new boat.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:09 am 
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Your problem is that you can't convert to a club trampoline. Before 2001 the boats were either Classic (three hooks on the inner hull to hold the trampoline) or Club (tramp track down the inside of each hull). As Matt Miller has pointed out on this forum you can't install the track if you don't have it. After 2001 all the boats had the track and the hooks for the classic went inside the track.

So if you want the club trampoline you have to buy another boat.

My boat started out in life as a classic but it's a 2004 so I could replace the tramp.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:57 am 
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IndyWave wrote:
Mimi Appel wrote:
You will still have some work to do on the new one, especially if you change out new style rudders for old
Mimi


Please don't be misleading anyone that they should go to the expense and trouble of replacing the EZ Lock rudders with the old obsolete style rudders. That's ridiculous! The new design is much better and maintenance-free.

Hi Jack,

Just curious...What kind of rudders do you have on your boats?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:31 am 
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I have EZ Locs on my own boat, and love them (with my tiller extensions). I would never go back to the old, obsolete style.

When I go to Florida each February, my condo has Waves with the obsolete style rudders/tillers. The longer tiller arms are nice for light air days when I sail solo; but most days are pretty breezy, and I often give rides to others, so the extra length is usually a non-issue. But each year, we have to replace the cams and rebuild the mechanisms, due to all the abuse the boats get throughout the year.

I've read some comments that since the EZ Loc rudders are thinner, the old style is better; but I've never understood how that matters. Has anyone ever actually broken an EZ Loc rudder while sailing a Wave?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:48 am 
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How much will be to renew it ?
:?:

Thanks for your answers... :)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:18 am 
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IndyWave wrote:
I've read some comments that since the EZ Loc rudders are thinner, the old style is better; but I've never understood how that matters. Has anyone ever actually broken an EZ Loc rudder while sailing a Wave?


The biggest problem with the EZ Locs for racing is that they are made in a mold and most have a slight curve (left or right...I forget).

That causes the boat to have weather helm on on one tack and lee helm on the other.

Trust me, there is a difference, but it is slight. In close racing, that can be a big difference, however.

That can certainly give you a psychological edge if nothing else. It is just one less thing to worry about if you are slow.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:29 pm 
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I selected renew simply because of the eye watering cost to buy a new one in New Zealand
To answer the question how much:

I have made a spreadsheet using the wave diagram of all the part numbers I think I need to get the boat to close to new. I went to backyardboats.com and simply created a shopping list to cost it all out.

I will buy the bits as funds allow (I have to fly under the wifes expense tracking radar). Just now Ive ordered some fittings and a new rudder. I shattered the bottom casting of my old style rudder at the weekend.
Next on the list is a complete set of standing rigging & I will take the opportunity to get a club style set up w. shroud adjusters. Then hopefully a new sail as Ive already torn and repaired the (presumably) 15 year old one I am using.

Unfortunately in NZ we are not well serviced, so I must buy from your part of the world. I gringe with envy when I read posts about how little you have to pay for new / used cats!
Does anybody know of a good online store, many will not ship outside of the US / Canada? I like these guys:
http://www.backyardboats.com/


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