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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:55 pm 
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Location: Mt Kuring-Gai, NSW, Australia
Got my TI last weekend and took it for a first spin on Saturday
in Pittwater, Sydney - winds were up to 30 km/h and quite a chop
-What a blast - we were racing up and down on a close reach for about
an hour. Got soaked, but loved it.

Biggest issue so far - since myself and partner are quite slight of build,
was getting the heavy duty wheels into the scupper holes when trying
to get the hull back in from the beach, when we got back.

We tried to lift the Kayak and plug them in, on the beach - what an effort
that was.

I'm thinking its better to get them plugged in when the Kayak hull is still afloat
(reaching underneath and plugging them in, somehow)
- is this feasable - doable - recommended ?

Suggestions welcome.

Happy to be part of the TI clan with all of you...


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:01 pm 
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If I'm putting wheels on when I land it's always while in 2-3 feet of water.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:27 pm 
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Oceanmoves,
Trying to lift the TI onto the cart is risky and probably a major cause of scupper damage. Like Bob said, it's much safer to insert the cart while standing in about knee deep water. The HD cart isn't as difficult as the Trax cart to insert and you should be able to get it into even the forward scupper OK. It's easier if you don't fold the ama in. The rear scupper is probably the easiest to use but then the handle gets very heavy. I used to use an extra cart (C-Tug) up front but now I'm using a cut down dolly cart which makes retrieving as easy as launching! :)
It's probably worth noting that Hobie no longer recommend the use of a scupper cart with the TI, but if you are careful and don't transport the TI loaded up you should be OK. I'd be fitting tennis balls to the cart though so the scuppers are evenly loaded.
Have a good read through the 'Transporting' section of the forum for more ideas.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:02 pm 
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I didn't know Hobie had stopped recommending use of scupper carts with the TI.
What do they recommend doing instead?

Is it worth using one cart in the middle, and one at the end ? Does that reduce the risk of damaging the hull ?


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:59 am 
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oceanmoves wrote:
I didn't know Hobie had stopped recommending use of scupper carts with the TI.
What do they recommend doing instead?
?



Have a look at these threads:

viewtopic.php?f=71&t=41847&p=175687&hilit=Cart+TI#p175687

viewtopic.php?f=73&t=40346&p=172957&hilit=Cart+TI#p172957

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:39 am 
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Geordie wrote:
oceanmoves wrote:
I didn't know Hobie had stopped recommending use of scupper carts with the TI.
What do they recommend doing instead?
?



Have a look at these threads:

viewtopic.php?f=71&t=41847&p=175687&hilit=Cart+TI#p175687

viewtopic.php?f=73&t=40346&p=172957&hilit=Cart+TI#p172957



Thanks all for help and suggestions. I think on balance I'll stick with my
HD wheels and move the hull of my 2012 TI about carefully,
without anything attached to it.

Apart from the considerable cost, I have nowhere to store a dolly of that
size when I'm out on the water, and it doesn't look like the silver bullet
solution we would all probably wish for.


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:17 am 
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I just accepted the fact the a TI is a boat more than just a kayak, so I got a trailer with jockey wheel and even a winch. 90kg is a lot to drag around, and I fear the potential for damage to scuppers from a cart.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:09 am 
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tonystott wrote:
I just accepted the fact the a TI is a boat more than just a kayak, so I got a trailer with jockey wheel and even a winch. 90kg is a lot to drag around, and I fear the potential for damage to scuppers from a cart.


Yep, I am with you on the traliler idea Tony. The winch sounds like an easy idea too. There was one on my jet ski trailer that I modified for the TI (might have to put it back again).

I have also got a TI dolley which I am fitting ot the front o fthe trailer as an extra cradle. Then if I need it as a dolly, I simply slide the wheels on, fit the retaining pins and lift the dolly off the trailer.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:31 am 
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I own a trailer and hobie dolly with beach wheels. Your idea to mount it on the trailer sounds cool can you post pictures?


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:57 pm 
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tonystott wrote:
I just accepted the fact the a TI is a boat more than just a kayak, so I got a trailer with jockey wheel and even a winch. 90kg is a lot to drag around, and I fear the potential for damage to scuppers from a cart.


It is a lot to drag around, but I figure unladen its 56 Kg which is slightly less
risky, and I'll live with having to move the attachments around separately


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:10 pm 
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The 2012 TI from my experience is too much weight for any one man to handle. I live about 75 yards to the ocean. 75 yards of pavement and 10-15 yards of slippery rocky shoreline. On my first trip on the TI, I dragged my fully rigged TI through 10 yards of loose & wet/slippery rocky shore. This was so challenging in strength and very risky to hull damage, I would never attempt it again. Even rolling it down the street (fully rigged) using heavy duty wheels was a bit of a challenge.

I think the TI kayak dolly cart would balance weight better and prevent hull damage, but I believe it would not make the effort of dragging it through pavement or loose slippery rocky shores any easier.

On my second TI ride, I made two trips in transporting my TI. Once by pulling the TI kayak only using the heavy duty cart and this was easy. The second trip using my van to carry all other accessories (amas, akas, PDF, mirage drives, dry bags, etc). I lose about 10-15 minutes in making a second trip but transporting is so much easier. I don't risk damaging my TI by dragging it and forces it through the rocky shore. The TI is definitely more than a kayak in difficulty in transporting, but so much more fun too!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:45 pm 
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Hi, I have used both the heavy duty cart and the dolly. I have had my TI almost 2 years now and sail every weekend at least one day. What I use and like the best is the C-Tug cart with the solid wheels. I put it on after I unstrap the TI from the trailer and it is just in front of the back scupper holes. The TI handles fine from the front handle. When I am ready to put it back on the trailer I just slide it under the boat in the water, it doesn't float so it easy to do. Makes loading easy. And it can be taken apart and put in a hatch if you want to take it with you.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:21 pm 
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