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 Post subject: Re: THE TI3 PROJECT
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:12 am 
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Great story and pctures. Thanks for the update.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:50 am 
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Have you abandoned moving the amas aft?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Not at all. It works fine. Needs more testing though, to compare this mode in big wind.

So many mods, so little time,..

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 Post subject: Re: THE TI3 PROJECT
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:41 am 
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[quote="NOHUHU"]Not at all. It works fine. Needs more testing though, to compare this mode in big wind.

So many mods, so little time,..



Hi;
AMAS aft.
At least 3 Ti´s are waiting for your news and test to go on...here in Gran Canaria (canary islands).
suggest:
We got special interest in downwind and surfing waves sailing test, to see if as the lift is going back the nose will be with more tendency to "submarine". Remember to do the test with the two crew on their seats and the two crew at the rear.
Many many thanks...

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:45 pm 
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Jose - ¡Adelante!

No reason to wait. The T3 modification will allow you to sail with the amas in either the front or the rear position. It will provide you several new ways to configure the seating on your boat.

Moving the Amas to the rear is the easy part. You can also add tramps or Hakas to them in that position. The front passenger can still ride them there, or the skipper, or a third passenger.

Building a third set of Akas (hence the TI3 name) is a bit more complicated. I think the many photos and videos here do a good job of outlining what is required.

I have a private page with more photos and sketches that loosely document the building process. I will send Jose the link. Anyone else who is serious about building a TI3 design can PM me for that info.

¡Buena Suerte!


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:50 am 
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you wrote: "I have a private page with more photos and sketches that loosely document the building process. Anyone else who is serious about building a TI3 design can PM me for that info.

Thanks for your offer, please send me the link with your photos, to may email: laluz55@gmail.com

Rgds from Canary Island

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:00 pm 
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All requests for the plans need to be through private message (PM) please. Contact me directly.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:38 am 
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For those who are hungry for more TI3 footage, I cut this full length test sail video. This one shows more details of the boats performance and handling while tacking, reaching and running.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4hJPt6Gj-Q&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]

I hope this gives you all a better idea of the TI3's exciting ride and seating options.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:17 am 
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Nohuhu,
Great video. You're making it look even more tempting. I'm seriously thinking about making one of these for my TI.
Your sailing buddy can sure move around quickly back there, hope he doesn't fall off :) .

ps. I hadn't seen a close up picture of your version of the double bungee that you put on Topher's TI, very clever.
Looks like Hobie made it :wink:, hummmm?
Did you do the same to the front aka and add a second post like I did on mine?

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:28 am 
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Excellent vid. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:41 am 
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Now if it only had a Sprayskirt, it would have been a dry ride for the front seat too! :)

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:40 am 
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I agree Bob - it's shame this boat is missing the most important modification of all! :lol:

We were just discussing this on the Batphone last night. Figured you should hand deliver a pair and take a ride... :?:


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:51 am 
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The video highlights the advantages of the TI3 really well. Great stuff! 8)
I was surprised how far out the haka need to be to balance the TI's larger sail in strong winds. I was thinking Chrisj's 'quarter deck' might be a simpler alternative for the rear of the TI but it wouldn't extend that far out.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:02 am 
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stringy wrote:
I was surprised how far out the haka need to be to balance the TI's larger sail in strong winds. I was thinking Chrisj's 'quarter deck' might be a simpler alternative for the rear of the TI but it wouldn't extend that far out.

If the hakas need to be that far out, the quarterdeck (or a Batwing) may still be useful by making it easier to get out to them. Also, when the wind dropped a bit you wouldn't be stuck having to sit too far out.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:24 pm 
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Tramps/Hakas was one of our first test runs, and we tried several seating arrangements after that. We put the bench out there to test the strength of the turnbuckle system and to explore solo sailing techniques. As you can tell, I was just "tramp candy" for this flight. Capt was having so much fun hiking, he wouldn't let me drive. :cry:

That said, you can still place the Universal Hakas anywhere you want along the 3rd rail (rear Akas).

The owner and I now prefer the double Haka mode with the rear Haka on the inside, like so:

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Since there is an overlap, I can hop on the rear bench ends first and slide to my outside hakas with ease.

When things get cooking, the solo pilot can scoot forward on his bench to better leverage the sail. His normal position at the back rear corner achieves a nice bow lift though.

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The benches are far more effective that the tramps for hanging out. It's easier to fine tune your ballast, in-out & side-side.

It takes a goodly wind to require both parties out on the benches.

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