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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:56 am 
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I acquired a used shroud extender kit and after searching extensively I can't find
my answer so I will ask it here. Where does the upper end of the extender cable
connect to the shroud? I understand how it is supposed to work, just not how the
swaged upper loop connects to the shroud wire. I found in the 21sc manual that
kit uses a slide clamp not included in the 18 kit. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:34 pm 
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Sorry but I am being a bit stupid here ......... Why would you want an extender kit ????

Apologies but I am being a bit stupid here

If you need to extend a shroud because say to increase rake .... make a new one, not buy a kit because it adds "unnecessaries" onto the boat

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:41 pm 
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The kit is for recovering after a capsize. It makes it easier to right the boat, if you extend the upper shroud.

I think you have to cut your shrouds to use that kit.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:52 am 
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In the Hobie parts catalog the description says installs easily with just
a pair of pliers. I assume the pliers are to tighten the shackles. Still can't find
the instructions or a reference to how the upper extender cable end attaches
to the shroud. Yes this kit is to aid in righting the boat.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:05 am 
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OK I had that kit. I don't have it installed anymore. Not a big fan of it. IIRC the top end is a U shaped piece of metal about 1 inch long. You have to shave the covering off the shroud just above the end piece and slide it into the U. 2 bolts hold it in place. Attached to it is a cable about 2 feet long that attaches at the foot of the adjuster. That's the extension. Kept to that cable with a smaller cable is a push release pin. That pin replaces the shroud anchor pin on the adjuster.

There was a discussion below somewhere about this system. The biggest problem I have with this system is that when you need to pull that pin it will be 8 feet above the water and on the wrong side of the tramp. It is also pretty much only good if you have mast up storage because the keeper cable is bolted to the diamond wire base.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:14 am 
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The picture in the Hobie catalog does not show those pieces that you
describe. In the 21sc manual it shows those pieces for that boat. Still
confused.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:03 am 
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Check your e-mail. I sent you some pictures.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:59 pm 
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My cables have a loop in both ends like the illustration in this ad from
mariner sails.

http://www.mariner-sails.com/partdetail.asp?id=23365

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:23 pm 
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There must be a way to get that loop to capture the swaged end of the shroud. It might just be such a tight fit when you slip it over horizontally that they count on it holding when the tension is vertical but I sure wouldn't want to count on that capsized a mile out in the gulf. Have you asked Mariner?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:56 pm 
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No experience with this myself, but I've read that you'll want to be careful with these on an H18. Since the mast isn't captured by the base, releasing the tension could possibly lead to de-masting the boat, making the situation much worse. Again, no experience myself, but something to consider.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:54 am 
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The kit includes a retention cable for the mast. It wraps around the dolphin striker and connects to the diamond wires.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:25 pm 
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Finally found my answer after an exhaustive search.

http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=24122&hilit=shroud+extenders

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:34 am 
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pknapp66 wrote:
Finally found my answer after an exhaustive search.


Except that the bottom end of your shrouds probably have a swaged aircraft eye, not a nicopress and thimble. The swaged eye is smaller than a thimble and would likely slide right through the shackle.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:38 am 
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I'd guess you could buy a small enough shackle.

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JSWoerner wrote:
I'd guess you could buy a small enough shackle.


True, except that the strength of the shackle is directly proportional to it's size. You go too small and the next thing you know, you have a broken shackle, a dismasted boat, and a whole new set of problems.

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