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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:02 am 
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i have sailed h16, h18, miracle 20 but never anything with a spinnaker.
with a partner we are now racing a 2008 tiger. the ONLY tiger and the only cat with with a spinnaker in our area.
a typical weekend race would consist of 1 h17, 2-4 h18 and our tiger. our crew weight is around 380 lbs
i am looking for some guidance on basic sailing angles for the tiger as compared to the old h18.
1) upwind should we be sailing about the same angle as the 18 but going faster or...?
2) rounding A reaching to B how do we decide if spin should be launched?
3) launching spin do we need to head downwind first or this just dependant on wind speed
4) we have separate spinnaker halyard and tack line, which should we do first and does this vary by wind speed (we have been hoisting first and setting tack second, we had the spin wrap behind the main in medium wind while i thought i was headed almost straight downwind)
5) downwind on the old h18 we would sail with burgy about 90 accepting that a burgy would be indicating more apparent wind should the boat be on about the same course or heading higher or lower than the old h18?
6)judging gybe, on the h18 sailing with the burgy at about 90 degrees we would gybe when the mark was abeam or slightly aft of abeam.

i have looked through the forums and taming your tiger and the other guide on the hobie support.
as i said earlier there are no other cats with spins so boat v boat comparisons is impossible and while some of our sailors have used spins on mono hulls the f18 design seems quite different.

thanks for reading answers would be appreciated


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:57 am 
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1 slightly higher and a little faster.
2 light wind under 10 knots ok to bring the spin up on the reach. Above 10 leave it in the bag till you are going down.
3 in heavier wind turn down and travel the main out to ease hoisting for the crew. in light wind you can set it on proper course.
4 tack out first. this can be done early on the reach and wait till you turn down to hoist.
when taking down gather the retrieval line pull it tight and then blow the halyard. pull it into the bag and when it gets tight let the tack go. the skipper can take up the lazy sheet when the douse is going to keep it from going under the boat.
5 you will be sailing a little lower but much faster than the H-18. your down wind angle will be pretty much the same as your upwind angle. approx 130 to 160 degrees off true wind direction.
let the boat power up and lift the hull then gently turn slightly down wind. as the hull starts to come down turn slightly back into the wind. small smooth turns are best for speed.
6 Don't wait till your at 90 to the mark as you will be too hot to the mark. if you are coming in too hot you can put about 1 foot of tack out and flatten out the spin to try to make it.

Hope this helps a little.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:26 pm 
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helps alot, thanks rich :)
re 6: is letting out the tack what flattens spin and we still trim for verge of curl or are we doing something different with sheet also
any other tips for us tiger newbs are welcome
edit: do we need to turn downwind to douse when we are approaching c mark


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:44 am 
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if you are coming in hot you will want to over sheet a bit to flatten the spin. put the crew back on the back on the trap and travel out the main about 9 inches.

Also never let the main sheet loose when the spin is up! This can break the mast quickly.
Also never let the main sheet loose when the spin is up! This can break the mast quickly.

Turning to almost dead down will help in getting the spin back in but once it is colapsed and to half way in the bag you can start to round up for the mark.

also there is a large advantage to letting the jib sheet out before you make the turn from up to down wind in heavy wind.

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