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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:59 am 
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Really like the Twist-n-Stow rudder on my 09 AI (storage/kayaking/light sailing), but also wanted better/more reliable steering while sailing in stronger winds and currents. So, how does one get the best of both worlds? This is what I came up with.
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All aluminum square tubing modular construction. Riveted together. Using two Dotan Optimist14 kick-up rudders.
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Just put it through a week of testing in Cedar Key, FL. Worked really well.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:32 pm 
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Ouch!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:48 pm 
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Now that's thinking outside the box.

Floats like a butterfly,.. stings like a bee!

Roman, I would pay to see Hakas and a Jib on that. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Seems like a lot of hardware but if it does what you want it to do, bravo.

Nice design and installation for sure.

Does it negate the need for the center daggerboard?

By the way, the kayak supports are equally novel. You might want to notify the maker that they have a product that can be marketed and sold to practitioners of two completely different endeavors.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:08 pm 
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NOHUHU wrote:
Now that's thinking outside the box.

Floats like a butterfly,.. stings like a bee!

Roman, I would pay to see Hakas and a Jib on that. :wink:



:D Definitely hakas in the near future, as now I can steer effectively and effortlessly from anywhere on the boat. The tiller handle extends to 50+ inches.

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Seems like a lot of hardware but if it does what you want it to do, bravo.

Nice design and installation for sure.

Does it negate the need for the center daggerboard?

By the way, the kayak supports are equally novel. You might want to notify the maker that they have a product that can be marketed and sold to practitioners of two completely different endeavors.


:lol: Lots of harware, you're right. As it started shaping up, I could hardly believe it myself. Especially the number of rivets, that went into it. But this is a prototype. I will have the one I am building for my wife welded - it'll be significantly lighter and less massive looking. Doesn't really replace the dagger but works rather well with it. I also noticed it tracked a little better when beaching with daggerboard removed. At $20 a piece for folding tables, they do make for nice and inexpensive kayak stands.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:12 pm 
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Lomcevak wrote:
Ouch!!!!!!
8)



What is the additionnal weight of this set-up ?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:45 pm 
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You are DEFINITELY going to like that!

Cool idea and very rugged looking. Appears your Ai was left unsupervised on the beach and a getaway mated with it. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:56 pm 
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Beautiful workmanship and clever upgrade !

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Lomcevak wrote:
Lomcevak wrote:
Ouch!!!!!!
8)



What is the additionnal weight of this set-up ?



It is right at about 25lb give or take a couple (floor scale)

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You are DEFINITELY going to like that!

Cool idea and very rugged looking. Appears your Ai was left unsupervised on the beach and a getaway mated with it. :lol:


Thanks :lol:

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Beautiful workmanship and clever upgrade !


Thank you!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:55 am 
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JaxAI wrote:
Lomcevak wrote:
Lomcevak wrote:
Ouch!!!!!!
8)



What is the additionnal weight of this set-up ?



It is right at about 25lb give or take a couple (floor scale)

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You are DEFINITELY going to like that!

Cool idea and very rugged looking. Appears your Ai was left unsupervised on the beach and a getaway mated with it. :lol:


Thanks :lol:

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Beautiful workmanship and clever upgrade !


Thank you!



Thanks for your answer, very clever idea...
Richard

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:28 am 
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JaxAI wrote:
Lots of harware, you're right. As it started shaping up, I could hardly believe it myself. Especially the number of rivets, that went into it. But this is a prototype. I will have the one I am building for my wife welded - it'll be significantly lighter and less massive looking.


Excellent idea Jax! Do you have a picture of the second one? Also how did you reinforce the hull?

Thank you,

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